one of the main reasons I was opposed to CFB implementing a playoff (or any consensus national championship system) was that I believed it would drive a wedge between the P5 conferences and the rest of D1.
I am shocked, and legitimately did not predict:
- how quickly that division has happened
- that the gap would be even more pronounced between the top two conferences and the rest of the P5, never mind the gap between P5 and rest of D1
- that the division would be even more pronounced between the top six schools and the rest of D1, never mind...
agree 98%.I will say I was one of the few people here who loved the old bowl system and argued against the BCS and then the playoff. Everyone though was so concerned with having a clear cut champion. I liked the uncertainty and all bowls meant something.
agree 98%.
The 2% where we differ, I never saw the former system as uncertainty (or "chaos" as some would put it). I saw it as acknowledgement that the different conferences weren't playing the same sport -- acknowledgement that the conferences had different recruiting budgets, different recruiting territories, different academic standards, stadium sizes, coaching budgets, red-shirt rules, etc......
I honestly don't recall a time where most bowls meant something, never mind all.
If we stayed in the Big-12 we would still have a big deficit compared to the SEC and Big-10 and that doesn't even take into account that the conference would have likely added TCU and someone else to remain at 12 so the payouts would be comparable to the Pac-12 right now. The only reason the Big-12 is above the PAC and ACC is they have less teams. It would be like if the Pac-12 dropped OSU and WSU.Has there ever been an AD more destructive to the athletics of CU than Mike Bohn?
What does the CFP (or any consensus national championship system) have to do with the financial gap? Whether the CFP exists or not, the SEC and BIG were going to generate massive TV contracts.one of the main reasons I was opposed to CFB implementing a playoff (or any consensus national championship system) was that I believed it would drive a wedge between the P5 conferences and the rest of D1.
I am shocked, and legitimately did not predict:
- how quickly that division has happened
- that the gap would be even more pronounced between the top two conferences and the rest of the P5, never mind the gap between P5 and rest of D1
- that the division would be even more pronounced between the top six schools and the rest of D1, never mind...
I don't dispute anything you've written. However, saying if he had done nothing and CU would only be slightly less worse off isn't a ringing endorsement either.If we stayed in the Big-12 we would still have a big deficit compared to the SEC and Big-10 and that doesn't even take into account that the conference would have likely added TCU and someone else to remain at 12 so the payouts would be comparable to the Pac-12 right now. The only reason the Big-12 is above the PAC and ACC is they have less teams. It would be like if the Pac-12 dropped OSU and WSU.
**** it. Try to get to the B1G.
California is a nice place to visit, yes, but the same qualities of warm beaches and tons of amenities leads to an apathetic fan base. Californians largely do not give a **** about college football. The steel grey skies and boring lifestyle of the Midwest create rabid fans that have made the B1G a legitimate rival to the SEC. Have to drive to Lincoln or Iowa City for games? Fine. The atmosphere is lightyears better and if I wanted a true vacation I'd go on my own accord. So what if the academics are sub-par? Michigan, Northwestern etc have no issues and the money would open way more doors than tangentially being associated with Stanford and Cal or whatever.
Go to the B1G for the money. Go to the B1G for a much better college football experience. Go to the B1G to have a real ****ing rival. Go so that we don't have to wait until 8:30pm for kickoff. Go for whatever reason but for the love of everything try to get out of a supercharged Mountain West conference that clearly doesn't give a **** and reeks with ineptitude.
It's not like this is in the cards but if the opportunity to leave to the B1G presents itself then by all means don't hesitate. Sick of having more fun watching SEC and B1G games on Saturdays than anything the PAC has to offer.
Going back to the Big-12 would put us in the same exact position we are currently in.Id make the same argument about returning to the Big 12.
Has there ever been an AD more destructive to the athletics of CU than Mike Bohn?
Ten years later CU won a national championship and played for one nine years later. We're 15 years past Bohn's hiring of Hawkins and looking as dead as ever.I don't have a lot of good things to say about Bohn, but come on, it's not even a discussion.
https://www.si.com/vault/1980/10/06...bust-but-chuck-fairbanks-has-his-50000-office
https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xZYyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ducFAAAAIBAJ&pg=4834,2836998
Ten years later CU won a national championship and played for one nine years later. We're 15 years past Bohn's hiring of Hawkins and looking as dead as ever.
For me to back this with data, would take more research than I have time or inclination to do. But my belief is that:What does the CFP (or any consensus national championship system) have to do with the financial gap? Whether the CFP exists or not, the SEC and BIG were going to generate massive TV contracts.
Welcome to the geezer club.....what did you say your name was again?*In full disclosure, I’m admittedly transitioning into old man stage.
I like almost nothing Darth ever posts, but this is spot on.1. Fire Larry.
2. Hire someone who doesn't suck.
3. Make an offer to UT + whichever texas school they like the most + Oklahoma schools. Even if it's not fair at first. Pay them.
4. Watch baylor burn.
5. Profit!
that HQ must be pretty sweet
Think it’s mostly location. P12 HQ is somewhere in San Francisco, the SEC HQ in Birmingham.
You can get a two bedroom apartment in Tuscaloosa for a $100. Trailer for $50.Think it’s mostly location. P12 HQ is somewhere in San Francisco, the SEC HQ in Birmingham.
But $$$ are $$$. Could at least be in a place like Vegas or Phoenix where the rent would have to be at least half as much as San FranFreakshow.Think it’s mostly location. P12 HQ is somewhere in San Francisco, the SEC HQ in Birmingham.
But $$$ are $$$. Could at least be in a place like Vegas or Phoenix where the rent would have to be at least half as much as San FranFreakshow.
P12 letting the conference execs make all the dough and get none of the results. Cool. Perfect
LA, Seattle, Portland...the PAC12 isn't lacking for geography.Not arguing. Put it in ****ing Gunnison for all I care.
They did move the football game. Last July.LA, Seattle, Portland...the PAC12 isn't lacking for geography.
Not even a member school, put it in ****ing Las Vegas.
,,,as a personal beef they hold the basketball tournament there. And it's ****ing great. Move the football game to the new Raiders stadium. ****ing yesterday.
Thank god.They did move the football game. Last July.
The Pac-12's football championship game is headed for Las Vegas
The Pac-12 Conference’s football championship game will be played at the NFL’s new Las Vegas Stadium during the 2020 and 2021 seasons.www.latimes.com
Nice job Pac12