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Thoughts on next year

Kameltosis said:
Mostly a total rebuild. Riley was trying that garbage pro style attack with poor line play and turnover heavy QB who will most likely not be starting next year as Frost runs that crazy speed attack he did at UCF and Oregon and for that we need a dual threat QB (WHICH I LOVE). The pro style is great when you have a top 10 recruiting rank with outstanding line guys but it just isn't going to work at Neb. The "difficult recruiting area" is too often paroted but it does have some foundation in truth but people act like we are the only ones in a geographically **** area. There are plenty of schools that sit in bum ****s ville and compete very well year to year (Oklahoma, Ohio State etc.). If we get them on campus and they see facilities and fan base it's basically the same and I like to think we're in the Top 5 in those two categories. I'm down for the long haul with Frost. Riley was a **** hire and I said it from the beginning. The last two ADs have injected cancer into Lincoln and I finally love both the AD and the HC. I'm very happy at the end of the worst Husker season in my lifetime so that's worth something I guess. Can't wait to play you ****ers next year!
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Your honesty is refreshing. I think that Frost was a great hire and the only person that could likely even start a rebuild. It is going to take a lot of time, but he will have the most united support they have ever had. I would be a little worried that he is going full MM and bringing his G5 Staff up to a P5 job. It has not really worked for Mac, and those guys also have to learn on the job and realize what the job really takes. DC Chinander has been giving up 40-50 points per game, without really any solution, despite possibly having more talent than he will start with at Nebraska. They are just so slow as a team, they need to look at the strength program, and realize that they need to recruit speed, speed, and more speed, but that takes time as well. His goal should be to find some QB's, add speed, build the lines, laser focus on rebuilding the defense, and sadly I think that is where he has messed up on the DC side of things. I will also keep an eye on the Huskers and will be at the 2018 and 2019 games. I was feeling so good about both games when we were coming off a 10-4 season and the Huskers were looking worse by the week. I pray that we kick it back into gear and the Skers remain below average so we can notch 2 wins and work to make up the massive W-L difference that we have. The better games will hopefully be in 2023 and 2024 because Frost will likely still be there, and we will hopefully have an even stronger coach that is keeping us in the 9-10 game win range.

Go Buffs
Red still sucks
 
Kameltosis said:
Mostly a total rebuild.
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You've been on this board for a long time, so when Buff fans hear "total rebuild," we envision the transition from Hawkins to Embree to MacIntyre. As in, "at least we have a decent long snapper." Mostly total rebuild means your needs are: RB, QB, half the OL, and both 1 and 2 WR...not seeing that. On defense it means the whole D-Line and half the LB's at a minimum. Yes, Reily was phoning it in at the end, and your OC sucked and would never be fired with Reily as the HC (having given him a kidney and all), but I struggle to think that the roster has NO TALENT. Even with inflated ratings for some of the guys on Rivals, there's some talent on that roster.

Just for my own edification:
1) Solich: 1998-2003, went 58-19
2) Pelini: 2008-2014, went 66-27
These two guys couldn't cut it for the Corn, 124-46 = a 72% winning percentage.
Any second thoughts on their firing? Or...
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So, RG is wanting to keep the trend going as far as ticket sales? Wants to keep improving ticket sales?
Hey, RG - we need positive info occasionally, we need good news coming out every once in awhile, we need a little more transparency, and we need wins.
 
J.R. Ewing said:
You guys did draw a brutal schedule. Michigan, Michigan St, and Ohio St from the East. Wisconsin, Northwester, Iowa, on the road. And watch out for Troy. Please tell me you followed LSU and made Troy your homecoming game. Pretty please.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-18/2018-nebraska-cornhuskers-football-schedule.php
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That is a brutal schedule. Hopefully Cornhusker fans simply have no expectations for next season like CU men's basketball fans for this season. Just enjoy the season.
 
Frost will need to avoid the Bill Callahan effect. Scored lots, gave up lots. UCF did the same. NU defense under Diaco ( who ALL of corn nation hailed as the savior) didn't improve.

Scoring more points will get them a few more wins. Vastly improving the D will be the real difference. If they can pull great athlete's from Florida, including some that are just overlooked then maybe, in time.

CSU has recently found some studs in Georgia and Nubs could do that, but better, in FL.
 
Kameltosis said:
Mostly a total rebuild. Riley was trying that garbage pro style attack with poor line play and turnover heavy QB who will most likely not be starting next year as Frost runs that crazy speed attack he did at UCF and Oregon and for that we need a dual threat QB (WHICH I LOVE). The pro style is great when you have a top 10 recruiting rank with outstanding line guys but it just isn't going to work at Neb. The "difficult recruiting area" is too often paroted but it does have some foundation in truth but people act like we are the only ones in a geographically **** area. There are plenty of schools that sit in bum ****s ville and compete very well year to year (Oklahoma, Ohio State etc.). If we get them on campus and they see facilities and fan base it's basically the same and I like to think we're in the Top 5 in those two categories. I'm down for the long haul with Frost. Riley was a **** hire and I said it from the beginning. The last two ADs have injected cancer into Lincoln and I finally love both the AD and the HC. I'm very happy at the end of the worst Husker season in my lifetime so that's worth something I guess. Can't wait to play you ****ers next year!
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Oklahoma and Ohio State are not as isolated geographically as Lincoln. Norman is 2.5 hours from Dallas, and Columbus has over a million people and probably has the strongest economy in the Midwest. It’s located near a ton of recruiting hotbeds.

Lincoln, obviously, is close to Omaha, but it doesn’t produce much talent relative to its population (Denver has similar problem).
 
Creebuzz said:
Oklahoma and Ohio State are not as isolated geographically as Lincoln. Norman is 2.5 hours from Dallas, and Columbus has over a million people and probably has the strongest economy in the Midwest. It’s located near a ton of recruiting hotbeds.

Lincoln, obviously, is close to Omaha, but it doesn’t produce much talent relative to its population (Denver has similar problem).
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Omaha is not much bigger than Colorado Springs.
 
Creebuzz said:
Oklahoma and Ohio State are not as isolated geographically as Lincoln. Norman is 2.5 hours from Dallas, and Columbus has over a million people and probably has the strongest economy in the Midwest. It’s located near a ton of recruiting hotbeds.

Lincoln, obviously, is close to Omaha, but it doesn’t produce much talent relative to its population (Denver has similar problem).
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This is important. Norman is less than a full day drive from almost all of the Texas population and even relatively close to to Louisiana. Generally during the football season that drive is not through snow or icy weather. Lincoln is a much more difficult trip for family and friends to come watch their kids play. OU also generally plays at least 2 games a year, often more in the state of Texas itself, something the fuskers no longer do.

Ohio State, again is less than a full days drive from a bunch of major metropolitan areas in the midwest. Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Detroit, Indianapolis, Cincinnati, Louisville, Nashville, St. Louis, and more are all a relatively easy drive from Columbus. Lincoln can't come close to that.
 
mdbuff97 said:
You've been on this board for a long time, so when Buff fans hear "total rebuild," we envision the transition from Hawkins to Embree to MacIntyre. As in, "at least we have a decent long snapper." Mostly total rebuild means your needs are: RB, QB, half the OL, and both 1 and 2 WR...not seeing that. On defense it means the whole D-Line and half the LB's at a minimum. Yes, Reily was phoning it in at the end, and your OC sucked and would never be fired with Reily as the HC (having given him a kidney and all), but I struggle to think that the roster has NO TALENT. Even with inflated ratings for some of the guys on Rivals, there's some talent on that roster.

Just for my own edification:
1) Solich: 1998-2003, went 58-19
2) Pelini: 2008-2014, went 66-27
These two guys couldn't cut it for the Corn, 124-46 = a 72% winning percentage.
Any second thoughts on their firing? Or...
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The biggest misconception for people "not in the know" is that Solich was fired for non and/or poor performance. Not true at all. Solich was fired because of his not-so-secretive love of young ladies on campus and "lifestyle" choices.
 
buffaholic said:
Frost will need to avoid the Bill Callahan effect. Scored lots, gave up lots. UCF did the same. NU defense under Diaco ( who ALL of corn nation hailed as the savior) didn't improve.

Scoring more points will get them a few more wins. Vastly improving the D will be the real difference. If they can pull great athlete's from Florida, including some that are just overlooked then maybe, in time.

CSU has recently found some studs in Georgia and Nubs could do that, but better, in FL.
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I keep hearing people say this but it's simply not true with exception to USF and Memphis at end of season (#14 and #2 scoring offenses in the FBS at the time of their games). A LOT of points that were scored in the other games were garbage time when they were already up by a large margin and had 2nd and 3rd stringers in. I followed UCF VERY closely this year haha. But yeah, not sure how I feel about the 3-4 yet. Diaco was a turd but I can't blame his defenses %100 because it's hard to stop a team for 4 quarters when you're on the field for 75% of it.
 
Kameltosis said:
The biggest misconception for people "not in the know" is that Solich was fired for non and/or poor performance. Not true at all. Solich was fired because of his not-so-secretive love of young ladies on campus and "lifestyle" choices.
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I am not in the know and that’s interesting. I’ve never ever heard that. I have a 65+ year old friend that updates me on Husker news every chance he sees me. Always said it was the talent level falling off, never mentioned a predilection for the younger ladies. No wonder they canned him. That’s not going to fly in Nebraska.
 
Kameltosis said:
The biggest misconception for people "not in the know" is that Solich was fired for non and/or poor performance. Not true at all. Solich was fired because of his not-so-secretive love of young ladies on campus and "lifestyle" choices.
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Pelini? Glad he was booted?
 
The hilarious thing is that cornholio nation will give frosty a parade and fifty year extension if he gets them back to the level where Solich & Pelini had them.
 
manhattanbuf said:
The hilarious thing is that cornholio nation will give frosty a parade and fifty year extension if he gets them back to the level where Solich & Pelini had them.
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I think this is 100% true. If they go back to being a 10-2/9-3 team it will be a success, and it will be a success...but Pelini was already doing that. Most of the Corn guys I talk to say that he was nuts and had to go for that reason alone.

The years of the undefeated season are over for Nebraska. Just don’t see them beating Penn, Michigan, Iowa, OSU, Mich State all in one year. Don’t even think Bama could do that.

What “helps” the Corn fans argument about Pelini and Solich is that no one else signed either of these guys when they were shown the door.

Also, I also thought Diaco was supposed to some kinda badass DC or something. What happened there?
 
Kameltosis said:
The biggest misconception for people "not in the know" is that Solich was fired for non and/or poor performance. Not true at all. Solich was fired because of his not-so-secretive love of young ladies on campus and "lifestyle" choices.
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I've heard stuff like that too, as well as other things. But kudos for him for hanging in there at Ohio and running a consistently winning program.
 
mdbuff97 said:
Pelini? Glad he was booted?
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At the time of his firing and the last 3 years I did not like the firing. Pelini was fired because Eichorst HATED him and vice versa. Pelini wouldn't play his game and fought him every step of the way. Eichorst wanted to micro manage (like he did with Riley) and Pelini wouldn't let him. Him being a huge asshat on the sideline didn't help anything either. Bunch of talk coming out of the locker room and administration basically stating that Eichorst did what he wanted and Riley just bent over for him. But now with our new AD and Frost coaching I am the happiest I've been in a long time. I feel the atmosphere around the program has made a huge shift and I already like what I'm seeing. Most fans I talk with are down to ride Frost out and short of a total implosion (i.e. worse than Riley did) I'm right there with them.
 
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PAHIBuff said:
I've heard stuff like that too, as well as other things. But kudos for him for hanging in there at Ohio and running a consistently winning program.
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Yeah there are rumors of knocked up girls and going to parties and booger sugar and the whole 9. Ol' Frank liked to party. Hell, he got in trouble for it at OHIO.
 
Buffnik said:
Omaha is not much bigger than Colorado Springs.
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True. Comparing CS to Omaha is like comparing a nice Ribeye to a ****ty Outback Steak. I get it. Colorado is ****ing beautiful. Nebraska...well, it's Nebraska. Nebraska has it's charm if you're from there but outside of that, believe me, I get it.
 
Kameltosis said:
True. Comparing CS to Omaha is like comparing a nice Ribeye to a ****ty Outback Steak. I get it. Colorado is ****ing beautiful. Nebraska...well, it's Nebraska. Nebraska has it's charm if you're from there but outside of that, believe me, I get it.
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I actually kind of like Omaha. Fly into there and drive through when visiting family in Sioux City. Nice zoo and whatnot.
 
Buffnik said:
I actually kind of like Omaha. Fly into there and drive through when visiting family in Sioux City. Nice zoo and whatnot.
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Got some sweet fat chicks too.

I was born and raised there so it has a special place in my **** ticker. I could live there if it wasn't for the ungodly real estate prices.
 
Kameltosis said:
True. Comparing CS to Omaha is like comparing a nice Ribeye to a ****ty Outback Steak. I get it. Colorado is ****ing beautiful. Nebraska...well, it's Nebraska. Nebraska has it's charm if you're from there but outside of that, believe me, I get it.
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I'm from there. Can confirm it's actually a **** place and I hate it. No offense to you, as you seem like a nice individual.
 
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