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Wish The PAC 12 Had Balls

RiverBuff said:
There already has been a lot of rescheduling of within division games. To me, it makes sense to have CU play USC next instead of Utah.

The schedule has already shown much fluidity, including who we would play for our 7th game. We were supposed to play USC anyway so having us play them next, especially for an extraordinary reason, for south division championship, would be best.
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Well, the scenario that actually makes most sense if you don’t want to deal with rescheduling games would be just allowing CU and USC to play each other in the CCG if they both win out. That week is the only one that isn’t set yet and all it would take is the conference deciding to let it happen. No changes or shuffling schedules needed.
 
FlatironsBuff said:
If the Pac 12 cares about national perception (not sure I can be convinced of that) the best thing would be for CU and USC to win out, then meet in the CCG. Two undefeated teams. No one blinks and eye in this crazy year if both are from the south. Now, for the PAC 12 best chance for a playoff team would be if USC wins that game. Not sure CU gets in if we win.

However, for the best CU benefit, both CU and USC wins out and then USC signs Helton to an extension. (Fibby jumps back and high fives himself)
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Pac 12 might as well be officially eliminated from the CFP. USC won’t be in the conversation, even if they win out and end up 7-0.
 
TSchekler said:
Well, the scenario that actually makes most sense if you don’t want to deal with rescheduling games would be just allowing CU and USC to play each other in the CCG if they both win out. That week is the only one that isn’t set yet and all it would take is the conference deciding to let it happen. No changes or shuffling schedules needed.
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If the conference meets the requisite games per team requirement, this reshuffle won’t happen. The conference isn’t going to tell UDub or Oregon that they’re SOL and can’t play without a rule break.
 
manhattanbuf said:
If the conference meets the requisite games per team requirement, this reshuffle won’t happen. The conference isn’t going to tell UDub or Oregon that they’re SOL and can’t play without a rule break.
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Well, the conference should do what’s best for the conference, which is having their only two undefeated teams play in their conference championship game, but as I said yesterday, the North programs probably have too much pull for it to actually happen.
 
FlatironsBuff said:
Always good to remember that USC hasn’t beaten a team that had won a game this year before yesterday. I don’t think they get past UCLA. Chance they won’t win tonight. We just have to beat Utah and see what happens.
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They didn't play yesterday, right? It's today.

Edit: nvm
 
TSchekler said:
Well, the conference should do what’s best for the conference, which is having their only two undefeated teams play in their conference championship game, but as I said yesterday, the North programs probably have too much pull for it to actually happen.
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The conference has many interests. Colorado’s interests do not align with much more powerful teams’ interests.
 
TSchekler said:
Well, the conference should do what’s best for the conference, which is having their only two undefeated teams play in their conference championship game, but as I said yesterday, the North programs probably have too much pull for it to actually happen.
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TSchekler said:
Well, the conference should do what’s best for the conference, which is having their only two undefeated teams play in their conference championship game, but as I said yesterday, the North programs probably have too much pull for it to actually happen.
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This is possible under the average games played division rule. Otherwise there will not be an exception made.
Everybody entered this season knowing the rules. The ADs discussed and voted on it. The integrity of the conference and the agreement supersedes local interest.
At best, we may see CU vs USC but I think that’s doubtful as well.
 
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hawg1 said:
This is possible under the average games played division rule. Otherwise there will not be an exception made.
Everybody entered this season knowing the rules. The ADs discussed and voted on it. The integrity of the conference and the agreement supersedes local interest.
At best, we may see CU vs UU but I think that’s doubtful as well.
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Eh, the BIG have rules too and under those rules, tOSU is likely not playing in the CCG. Nonetheless, it’s guaranteed that they make an exception
 
hawg1 said:
This is possible under the average games played division rule. Otherwise there will not be an exception made.
Everybody entered this season knowing the rules. The ADs discussed and voted on it. The integrity of the conference and the agreement supersedes local interest.
At best, we may see CU vs UU but I think that’s doubtful as well.
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I'm planning on CU-UU on Friday until I hear otherwise.
 
TSchekler said:
Eh, the BIG have rules too and under those rules, tOSU is likely not playing in the CCG. Nonetheless, it’s guaranteed that they make an exception
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You think B1G reaches minimum average games played this week?
 
TSchekler said:
Eh, the BIG have rules too and under those rules, tOSU is likely not playing in the CCG. Nonetheless, it’s guaranteed that they make an exception
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If Michigan and Minnesota can't go, they'll sacrifice Fusker to Ohio State again. Maybe they'll lose by 30 this time.
 
hawg1 said:
You think B1G reaches minimum average games played this week?
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I’m saying the BIG is going to make whatever adjustments they need to in order to accommodate tOSU. Yes, I understand tOSU is a CFP team, which makes it different, but conferences can change their rules to do whatever they want.
 
ahoelsken said:
theathletic.com

College football needs more games like BYU-Coastal Carolina

In an unconventional season, doing the unconventional is paying off. And the sport, its teams and conferences could benefit from more of it.
theathletic.com theathletic.com

Mandel (who doesn't have a degree from CU) now saying the same thing JK is.
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It’s not a CU homer take. It’s common sense, especially since Oregon and Washington have losses and the reasons for CU’s cancellations were due to SC and ASU, not self inflicted
 
hawg1 said:
This is possible under the average games played division rule. Otherwise there will not be an exception made.
Everybody entered this season knowing the rules. The ADs discussed and voted on it. The integrity of the conference and the agreement supersedes local interest.
At best, we may see CU vs UU but I think that’s doubtful as well.
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What do you mean by your last sentence?
 
Don’t care about Utah, would much rather the buffs get a shot at SC.

It’s unlikely to happen and thus Buffs need to focus on a capable Utah team. If they can force the Trojans to hold serve twice and are both sitting undefeated then so be it. I have my doubts that both teams end up at that point, and namely SC has looked pedestrian.

PAC winner will not get to CFP, and nor should they. But for CU to have a reasonable path to a NY6 bowl speaks highly of Dorrell. I think he will continue to have the Buffs competing at a high level for a while
 
hawg1 said:
Ooooops.

CU vs USC.
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Scenario 1: Assuming SC wins tonight, have an SC/Colorado matchup on Saturday in order to keep the integrity of the divisional matchup for the CCG

Scenario 2: Assuming SC wins tonight, keep the schedule as is while announcing that should both USC and Colorado win and are undefeated, they would meet in the Pac 12 CG

Personally, I would prefer scenario 1, as that is more in line with what the BIG is likely to do with tOSU and isn’t averting the rules that were set before the season.

Obviously, if SC loses tonight, this won’t be that big of an issue
 
TSchekler said:
Scenario 1: Assuming SC wins tonight, have an SC/Colorado matchup on Saturday in order to keep the integrity of the divisional matchup for the CCG

Scenario 2: Assuming SC wins tonight, keep the schedule as is while announcing that should both USC and Colorado win and are undefeated, they would meet in the Pac 12 CG

Personally, I would prefer scenario 1, as that is more in line with what the BIG is likely to do with tOSU and isn’t averting the rules that were set before the season.

Obviously, if SC loses tonight, this won’t be that big of an issue
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Are you saying tOSU and Michigan is canceled?
 
You'd think the Pac-12 would do it for the money (higher tier network) and national attention by putting #21 CU vs. #16 USC (AP poll) together before the CCG.

No other Pac school in top 25.
 
Why even have a championship game. How about play as many games as possible up until a defined date. That’s really all I think football fans want, more games.
 
azbuff said:
If USC wins today, it’s time for the Pac to start considering alternate matchups for next week or the conference champ game. I am partial to Klatt’s idea (USC v CU in CC game) if both win out.

Could be much ado about nothing. According to statistical models, there’s around a 1:4 chance both CU and USC win out. UCLA is probably our best win and may give USC its toughest challenge. (Not sure the Cougs are a cakewalk for USC tonight either.)
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GO COUGS!!!
 
manhattanbuf said:
If the conference meets the requisite games per team requirement, this reshuffle won’t happen. The conference isn’t going to tell UDub or Oregon that they’re SOL and can’t play without a rule break.
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Depends...if the B10 breaks their rules to put OSU in the Championship game without the requisite minimum games it might give the P12 cover to make a similar move.
 
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