FlatironsBuff
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I’d be surprised if Sacky isn’t outside in your lawn wearing a Jason Vorhees mask right now. With a machete.
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Wish The PAC 12 Had Balls
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I don’t think there’s anywhere good in the big 12 outside of Austin and maybe Morgantown (never been). BIG at least has Madison, Ann Arbor, Minneapolis and wherever Penn State is that I’ve heard is pretty cool, plus their stadiums are absolutely crazy.
Zero interest in going back to the Big 12. Zero. Big 10...perhaps, but I still prefer that the PAC-12 gets it's **** together. That's starts w/ a new commissioner.
This song pretty much captures the vibe of the entire Big 10 for me (though I might be a little jaded by my time at Purdue).
Oh and if you die fearing God
And painfully employed
No you will not go to heaven
You'll go to Champaign, Illinois
Ok, you've convinced me. B1G is a terrible idea, too. The PAC just needs to get it in a pile.
FlatironsBuff
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Love the locations of the PAC 12. Would love the money of the B10. Would like the history of the Big 8.
**** Texas. And **** Larry Scott.
**** Texas. And **** Larry Scott.
ahoelsken
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Lincoln, Nebraska is probably the best place to see a buff win outside of Boulder.
I take it as (@Buffnik ) sarcasm.
Wilner is upset along with us with how CU is being (mis)treated here. He's being facetious in saying that the MWC would manage this better than Larry Scott's Pac-12
ahoelsken
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Haven't seen him but I was like on naboo last night. He could have shown up and I wouldn't have known.
ahoelsken
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If Donald Trump were Pac 12 commissioner, he'd manage this better than Larry Scott. That's not saying much.
Alright, I'm sure I'm going to ruffle some panties with this but this has bothered me for a while. Who gives a **** about "nice places" to go to games at? What in the actual **** does "cultural fit" have to do with athletics?
If we're looking at what's best for the program in terms of wanting it to grow and be successful, whether it is right or wrong, the fact is money and relevance are the most important factors in a conference. PAC12 is rapidly losing a grip on both of those between the PAC12 network and a lack of a national competitor year after year.
I was all on board with the PAC 12 move at the time. I had a revelation last year after the Nebraska game. With the effects of 10-15 pre game beer and White claw bongs fading as I was walking out of Folsom telling Nebraska fans "good game, I really thought Frost was going to be the one to turn your program back around, I'm sorry", I realized this is what college football is all about. The passion and soul. The PAC12 has lost its soul. Going to half empty stadiums in California with nobody giving a **** isn't college football. The best CU football games I've been to were against teams with passionate fanbases in a packed house like Michigan in 16 and FSU in 08, Nebraska, West Virginia, Oklahoma. Most campuses in the Midwest and South aren't beautiful, but they are passionate about their programs and it leads to a game day atmosphere that we don't get in the PAC 12. If you think how pretty the view is of where you're going to watch a game is more important than the atmosphere, you're forgetting what college sports are all about. When the season is over, take a Friday off and book an airbnb in Palo Alto or Southern California and take in the view.
The PAC 12 is ****ed and I don't have confidence that it will un**** itself anytime soon. The important thing is that the BIG 12 and 10 have TV deals that are strong, mostly due to strong fanbases that tune in (and partially because their commissioner isn't a moron). If we care about long term success, we jump on the first opportunity to go to either BIG conference.
If we're looking at what's best for the program in terms of wanting it to grow and be successful, whether it is right or wrong, the fact is money and relevance are the most important factors in a conference. PAC12 is rapidly losing a grip on both of those between the PAC12 network and a lack of a national competitor year after year.
I was all on board with the PAC 12 move at the time. I had a revelation last year after the Nebraska game. With the effects of 10-15 pre game beer and White claw bongs fading as I was walking out of Folsom telling Nebraska fans "good game, I really thought Frost was going to be the one to turn your program back around, I'm sorry", I realized this is what college football is all about. The passion and soul. The PAC12 has lost its soul. Going to half empty stadiums in California with nobody giving a **** isn't college football. The best CU football games I've been to were against teams with passionate fanbases in a packed house like Michigan in 16 and FSU in 08, Nebraska, West Virginia, Oklahoma. Most campuses in the Midwest and South aren't beautiful, but they are passionate about their programs and it leads to a game day atmosphere that we don't get in the PAC 12. If you think how pretty the view is of where you're going to watch a game is more important than the atmosphere, you're forgetting what college sports are all about. When the season is over, take a Friday off and book an airbnb in Palo Alto or Southern California and take in the view.
The PAC 12 is ****ed and I don't have confidence that it will un**** itself anytime soon. The important thing is that the BIG 12 and 10 have TV deals that are strong, mostly due to strong fanbases that tune in (and partially because their commissioner isn't a moron). If we care about long term success, we jump on the first opportunity to go to either BIG conference.
Comparing a Nebraska series to playing in the big 12 is not fair at all. That’s one game out of all those teams where no one wanted to travel to outside of maybe texas. You also don’t need to be in a conference to play one team you hate.
tons of people care about where the games are at, it’s why you see more fans traveling to games now. It’s not hard, a majority of our student body comes from the western states, that is where a majority of our alumni also reside after school. Stop being mad at the conference our football program not being good, it’s no ones fault but our own. We just went through a phase when the best team in the conference was down for multiple years, teams in other conferences take advantage when that is the case and we should have too.
tons of people care about where the games are at, it’s why you see more fans traveling to games now. It’s not hard, a majority of our student body comes from the western states, that is where a majority of our alumni also reside after school. Stop being mad at the conference our football program not being good, it’s no ones fault but our own. We just went through a phase when the best team in the conference was down for multiple years, teams in other conferences take advantage when that is the case and we should have too.
I mean, it sounded good though right?
Your passion is noted.
So instead of #15 vs #21 for the South Division title this weekend, we have USC/UCLA and CU/Utah! Yay
speechless
Dude. You can’t have the handle Big Iron Buff while talking about whiteclaw bongs!
Spritzer Buff?
Exactly!
BehindEnemyLines
beware the habu
Bogart Buffs ?
Serious question: if we are to leave the P12, where would we go?
I don’t see overtures from the B1G or $EC being made to lure us to their conferences.
Yeah, for my AllBuffs street cred, I should have left that part out. I meant it more in the context that I was beyond fired up and any alcohol that went into that beer bong was going down the hatch to fuel the runaway freight train that I had become.
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That's the thing, there's no indication that any other P5 conference is interested in CU right now. Which is what I thought Wilner's comment alluded to - where else are we gonna go?
And I don't think he meant that in a demeaning way, just realistically. In other words, we're stuck in this joke of a conference, at least for now.
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Colorado has a long way to go in order to get respect where we already are located. I feel it’s a fan fantasy to think someone with deep pockets would want us.
I think it goes to show that the size of the media markets in CFB are largely irrelevant, and it's more about the national brand, interest and fanbase of a program.
They definitely matter, but many are overvalued because they are heavily diluted. The sec has a
Ton of smaller non diluted tv markets and even their large ones are known as terrible professional sports towns where no one cares (Atlanta, Tampa, Jacksonville, miami). Pretty much the opposite of the pac 12.
Well, they matter but only in a much more granular sense. I'm just saying in the context of the discussion about CU joining a different conference, the Denver media market isn't really that attractive for college sports
That was not the case when the B1G added Maryland or Rutgers. I just don’t think the Denver market is seen by them as substantial enough to warrant an overture.
Well I don't necessarily agree about that the way things are currently structured. For example if the BIG added Colorado they would up their charge for the Big-10 Network for the entire state because it is now in the footprint. That includes the 17th and 85th biggest tv markets in the country to go along with the rest of the state which is continuing to grow. The Big-12 doesn't really care because they don't have their own network. It didn't work out as well with the Pac-12 because the DirecTV deal was screwed up from the start but the Big-10 has a ton more leverage to exploit that available revenue.
Now if you are talking about the future and how revenue will change for college tv networks over the next 10-15 years then it could become a completely different structure.
Mizzou would also be a huge add for the BIG with the 23rd and 32nd biggest tv markets in the country.