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Wish The PAC 12 Had Balls

A LOT. There are many midwest transplants who live in the tri-state area. The B1GN is in a lot of accessible TV packages that people who have cable get with service. This is why I get everything with my cable here outside of DC.
I guess I didn't realize how much of a following Rutgers has?
 
I guess I didn't realize how much of a following Rutgers has?
It’s not about Rutgers. It’s about the people who are fans of other B1G schools getting to see the entire network’s programming easily and getting the ad buys from the ratings. That’s why the market makes sense for the conference. I hardly ever watch Maryland, Virginia Tech, or UVA, but I get every game that’s broadcast by ACC and B1G affiliated networks.
 
It’s not about Rutgers. It’s about the people who are fans of other B1G schools getting to see the entire network’s programming easily and getting the ad buys from the ratings. That’s why the market makes sense for the conference. I hardly ever watch Maryland, Virginia Tech, or UVA, but I get every game that’s broadcast by ACC and B1G affiliated networks.
Then why does adding Rutgers make a difference? I have the BIGN. People in the tri-state area who are fans of other programs didn't need Rutgers moving to the BIG to watch the network
 
Because if you are in the footprint the cost providers pay the big 10 is like 5 times higher. It goes from like .35 cents per person to 1.25.
I can only speak for myself but prices are already set for tv providers. Who is paying this higher rate if a School is technically in market?
 
I can only speak for myself but prices are already set for tv providers. Who is paying this higher rate if a School is technically in market?
It’s set in the original contracts. Comcast pays a higher rate for the pac 12 network inside the current states than they do for those who get pac 12 network out of footprint. Same for the big 10 network.
 
Then why does adding Rutgers make a difference? I have the BIGN. People in the tri-state area who are fans of other programs didn't need Rutgers moving to the BIG to watch the network
Getting a local team changes the tiering of the network for the TV providers for standard packaging. It also bolsters the conference’s priority in getting games on larger partner broadcasts (network, ESPN, and Fox cable).
 

“BTN charges cable operators a different sub fee in states where the Big Ten has school. According to research company Kagan, BTN gets more than $1.30 per month from cable operators for in-market subscribers, but less than a dime for out-of-market subscribers.”
 
****. Let's do what it takes to get into the B1G or get invited or however that works. $$$ and playing Nebraska and MSU regularly as **** while keeping our SoCal and TX pipelines is where it's at. RG FTW on this.
 
****. Let's do what it takes to get into the B1G or get invited or however that works. $$$ and playing ****braska and MSU regularly as **** while keeping our SoCal and TX pipelines is where it's at. RG FTW on this.
RG doesn’t have anywhere near this kind of clout or ability.
 
Get back on topic. I can’t believe you people now have a thread going about ****ing Rutgers.
What should have happened before the season is that they made a rule that if a team cancels a game due to COVID, they get a loss. Period. You’re taking your chances but at least you know that if the other team cancels the game you get the win. Why should we be penalized if USC cancels the game? That’s what halopened.
 
Growing up in big 10 country and living in California, i would absolutely hate CU going to the big 10. I am just bored by the predominant style and all the games are gray and depressing. Let’s just get a p12 commissioner worth a ****.
I could go with that too.
Signed, RG
 
Get back on topic. I can’t believe you people now have a thread going about ****ing Rutgers.
What should have happened before the season is that they made a rule that if a team cancels a game due to COVID, they get a loss. Period. You’re taking your chances but at least you know that if the other team cancels the game you get the win. Why should we be penalized if USC cancels the game? That’s what halopened.
I agree that the outcome of that arrangement is unfair.

But I'd also suggest there is a dangerous incentive imbedded in your proposal.
 
Get back on topic. I can’t believe you people now have a thread going about ****ing Rutgers.
What should have happened before the season is that they made a rule that if a team cancels a game due to COVID, they get a loss. Period. You’re taking your chances but at least you know that if the other team cancels the game you get the win. Why should we be penalized if USC cancels the game? That’s what halopened.
As has been pointed out - repeatedly - doing what you propose would encourage teams to hide positive tests. Bad idea.
 
I wonder if USC would have had too many positive and cancelled on us if we hadn’t lost the ASU game the week before? Certainly made it an easy choice to avoid a good team since they had a game in hand
 
How many games this week need to be cancelled to trigger the minimum game threshold deal where they drop divisions for the championship game? With the us and uo game cancelled could the buffs cancel their way into the conference championship against usc?
 
That was not the case when the B1G added Maryland or Rutgers. I just don’t think the Denver market is seen by them as substantial enough to warrant an overture.

But I would venture to guess that the B1G looks back at that as a bad move especially from a pure football perspective, although @onealcd brought up some great points about network upcharges in markets that are in a conference footprint.

I think the ACC adding BC was a similarly bad move. BC is probably the 5th best draw in the Boston market, at best. Plus I doubt there are that many ACC alums in the Northeast since more people tend to move South or West later in life.
 
The point about B1G transplants in the Denver market is something I hadn’t really considered before. There’s a boatload of those folks here from across the entire conference footprint. I’m constantly amazed at the level of support I see for Ohio State, of all places. It’s like half the state of Ohio moved here. And we gave them Burrito. I think we got the worst of that deal, but I’m willing to listen to counter arguments.

Seems like tOSU fans are all over the place. There are tons of them in the Charlotte region too. I'd say the only other out of state schools that have more fans in this area are South Carolina, Clemson and VT and that's obviously a regional thing. Although technically the Charlotte market extends into the upstate of SC.
 
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But I would venture to guess that the B1G looks back at that as a bad move especially from a pure football perspective, although @onealcd brought up some great points about network upcharges in markets that are in a conference footprint.

I think the ACC adding BC was a similarly bad move. BC is probably the 5th best draw in the Boston market, at best. Plus I doubt there are that many ACC alums in the Northeast since more people tend to move South or West later in life.
I think the big 10 is still very excited about adding Maryland and Rutgers. It has made them more money than any other conference so far and they didn’t create a football league that was “too competitive” like the sec where teams are afraid to play more games against one another. In basketball there has been a clear increase in play there since the money started flowing in too.

I do think where they probably could have done better was adding Missouri, Virginia, or even North Carolina instead of Nebraska. All of those schools give them more tvs in the footprint, better recruiting areas and way better schools.

I disagree with you about Boston not having a lot of ACC grads, that city is a big financial hub (I would think number two to NYC) and that always attracts kids from those schools. I do agree that Boston college isn’t a big draw but that’s just college football in the northeast unfortunately.
 
How many games this week need to be cancelled to trigger the minimum game threshold deal where they drop divisions for the championship game? With the us and uo game cancelled could the buffs cancel their way into the conference championship against usc?
2 more games, which is obviously not happening
 
Get back on topic. I can’t believe you people now have a thread going about ****ing Rutgers.
What should have happened before the season is that they made a rule that if a team cancels a game due to COVID, they get a loss. Period. You’re taking your chances but at least you know that if the other team cancels the game you get the win. Why should we be penalized if USC cancels the game? That’s what halopened.
They all considered it. That would potentially cause teams to hide cases. Thus all rejected it.
 
I think the big 10 is still very excited about adding Maryland and Rutgers. It has made them more money than any other conference so far and they didn’t create a football league that was “too competitive” like the sec where teams are afraid to play more games against one another. In basketball there has been a clear increase in play there since the money started flowing in too.

I do think where they probably could have done better was adding Missouri, Virginia, or even North Carolina instead of ****braska. All of those schools give them more tvs in the footprint, better recruiting areas and way better schools.

I disagree with you about Boston not having a lot of ACC grads, that city is a big financial hub (I would think number two to NYC) and that always attracts kids from those schools. I do agree that Boston college isn’t a big draw but that’s just college football in the northeast unfortunately.

I would be surprised if the B1G is excited to have Maryland and Rutgers outside of financial reasons. The financial add a team brings us always tough because adding a school also means one more to divvy up the pie with. But I'm sure they did all that research before adding them.

I remember there was some serious talk about the B1G adding UVA and UNC but that was also at the same time the ACC was considered unstable and there was talk of Clemson and FSU leaving for the Big 12.

Guess I can't really speak for Boston but I do feel confident that it is very apathetic when it comes to college sports, except maybe hockey lol. It might be a big financial hub but I thought Charlotte was the 2nd largest financial hub, maybe that's just with respect to banking though.
 
I would be surprised if the B1G is excited to have Maryland and Rutgers outside of financial reasons. The financial add a team brings us always tough because adding a school also means one more to divvy up the pie with. But I'm sure they did all that research before adding them.

I remember there was some serious talk about the B1G adding UVA and UNC but that was also at the same time the ACC was considered unstable and there was talk of Clemson and FSU leaving for the Big 12.

Guess I can't really speak for Boston but I do feel confident that it is very apathetic when it comes to college sports, except maybe hockey lol. It might be a big financial hub but I thought Charlotte was the 2nd largest financial hub, maybe that's just with respect to banking though.
Purdue is paying their head coach almost 5 million a year, I can guarantee you they are very happy getting that money from their tv contracts in the northeast. The big 10 consistently pulls amazing ratings so they obviously aren’t having an issue with who they added or splitting the pie to those teams.

as for Charlotte, yes that in banking. It is actually pretty small in terms of financial industry. The top financial cities in the us are nyc, Chicago, San Francisco and Boston.
 
Wilner tweeted that there is a lot of chatter about pushing the championship game back a week. However, he's latest tweet says decision to be made this weekend...

I like Bear Down Steve's proposal on his reply
 
I wonder if USC would have had too many positive and cancelled on us if we hadn’t lost the ASU game the week before? Certainly made it an easy choice to avoid a good team since they had a game in hand
Not sure if it was true, but there was some chatter that USC could have played us but Helton didn’t want To go with three backup OL.
 
Purdue is paying their head coach almost 5 million a year, I can guarantee you they are very happy getting that money from their tv contracts in the northeast. The big 10 consistently pulls amazing ratings so they obviously aren’t having an issue with who they added or splitting the pie to those teams.

as for Charlotte, yes that in banking. It is actually pretty small in terms of financial industry. The top financial cities in the us are nyc, Chicago, San Francisco and Boston.

Yea, since Fox started their Big Noon games last year the ratings for those have been great. But it's also with pointing out that tOSU or Michigan is usually playing in that game.
 
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