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2020 CU football season POSTPONED until Nov 6th?

Bill Cody said:
Absolutely not. NFL is apples and oranges to CFB with regards to resources and maturity of the players


Agreed. But the point holds, College kids are going to be dumb
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Doesn't mean Lou Williams or Danuel House (who apparently allowed a female COVID-19 tester into his room in the bubble.......for I wonder what) type stuff can't happen in the NFL, too.

I think the point is this-College football players are safer if they've got the structure that a season can provide. If you give them down time and allow them to go party and what not, we're seeing what happens. Does that mean we should have a normal season with fans in the stands, tailgating, and all the other pagentry that goes with CFB? Absolutely not.
 
zbuff said:
But it speaks to susceptibility - it's not just about the kids. There is a broad community concern, starting with the teaching staff.
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Do you think these college aged athletes are safer doing whatever else they would be doing versus playing football (this includes working out, being around teammates, coaches, staff, etc.)?
 
TSchekler said:
That’s literally all not playing football because of Covid has to do with
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No it isn't. It was never the reason, and no one ever said or thought it was.

You're choosing to ignore all the real reasons colleges shouldn't be playing...like not having on campus classes yet still playing and having fans in the stands.

I get it you want football, and you'll make every excuse in the world to make your point of view seem more rational.
 
Medford M. said:
No it isn't. It was never the reason, and no one ever said or thought it was.

You're choosing to ignore all the real reasons colleges shouldn't be playing...like not having on campus classes yet still playing and having fans in the stands.

I get it you want football, and you'll make every excuse in the world to make your point of view seem more rational.
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I have been very clear they shouldn’t have fans in the stands. Classes on campus should have nothing to do with anything in this discussion. Also, neither of those make my statement incorrect.
 
TSchekler said:
I have been very clear they shouldn’t have fans in the stands. Classes on campus should have nothing to do with anything in this discussion. Also, neither of those make my statement incorrect.
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Your statement is incorrect because whether one can contract Covid playing football was never part of the consideration for cancelling. It's the argument from the "I want my football crowd", but it's the least important aspect of the discussion. I'm actually baffled people are using that argument.

You really think it's cool to keep playing sports, even though kids aren't on campuses, these kids are still going to party and pass it to eachother at workouts, etc.? You're nuts.
 
ahoelsken said:
Doesn't mean Lou Williams or Danuel House (who apparently allowed a female COVID-19 tester into his room in the bubble.......for I wonder what) type stuff can't happen in the NFL, too.

I think the point is this-College football players are safer if they've got the structure that a season can provide. If you give them down time and allow them to go party and what not, we're seeing what happens. Does that mean we should have a normal season with fans in the stands, tailgating, and all the other pagentry that goes with CFB? Absolutely not.
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They are just vastly different, and any argument to the contrary doesn't hold any water. Professionls are substantially financially motivated to stay sequestered. Dumb will be dumb occasionally, and they will be made an example of. But many of these guys are married, with families, and all they do is football as a job ($$$$). They have strict protocols and constant testing.

You cannot sequester college kids and they will go out and party, and do other dumb ****. The BIG is trying to make the case to be able to play, coaches are being strict, and a school like Wiscy has 58 cases in their AD! I made this point before, but I am not convinced that college kids are safer by being bound to the structure of a CFB season, it wholly depends on the discipline and lifestyle of the individual. We can argue this around and around in circles, but the point I made above was that case load in the NFL does not prove that it would be safe for College Football. What proof do we have that playing CFB is safer than not? I am being genuine when I say that I could argue it either way, and don't have a stance on which is safer. But I do think it is smart from a liability reason for the PAC 12 to not be playing until they have a clear path forward to limiting that liability.
 
Medford M. said:
Your statement is incorrect because whether one can contract Covid playing football was never part of the consideration for cancelling. It's the argument from the "I want my football crowd", but it's the least important aspect of the discussion. I'm actually baffled people are using that argument.

You really think it's cool to keep playing sports, even though kids aren't on campuses, these kids are still going to party and pass it to eachother at workouts, etc.? You're nuts.
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What are you talking about? Cancelling the seasons has always been about protecting the athletes from contracting and spreading the virus, along with the long term ramifications. What has never been part of the argument is some debate about whether it’s fair to play while regular students are doing online classes. Oh, and your statement is suggesting that they’re somehow not going to party if they aren’t playing. You’re nuts
 
4BienemyTDs said:
We are such a Wartime country!!!
Can we not sacrifice anything for anybody?
If we ever had an actual war on our turf, we probably would still try to find a way to play College Football, just duck from the bombs!
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Exactly. Sports aren't that important that there should be any bitching, let alone the vast amount of bitching there has been.
 
TSchekler said:
What are you talking about? Cancelling the seasons has always been about protecting the athletes from contracting and spreading the virus, along with the long term ramifications. What has never been part of the argument is some debate about whether it’s fair to play while regular students are doing online classes. Oh, and your statement is suggesting that they’re somehow not going to party if they aren’t playing. You’re nuts
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Safety, yes. There were always 100 more considerations being looked at aside from whether or not players could contract the virus from the act of playing football. If you think that was the only consideration, then I can see why you'd be upset CU isn't playing.
 
Medford M. said:
Safety, yes. There were always 100 more considerations being looked at aside from whether or not players could contract the virus from the act of playing football. If you think that was the only consideration, then I can see why you'd be upset CU isn't playing.
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The only things you have mentioned are unfairness you regular students and players are going to party. What else?
 
Medford M. said:
Your statement is incorrect because whether one can contract Covid playing football was never part of the consideration for cancelling. It's the argument from the "I want my football crowd", but it's the least important aspect of the discussion. I'm actually baffled people are using that argument.

You really think it's cool to keep playing sports, even though kids aren't on campuses, these kids are still going to party and pass it to eachother at workouts, etc.? You're nuts.
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Athletic departments and coaches have been very clear to their players and staff that they must limit their contact with others if they want any type of season or normalcy. You can argue as much as you want if that is right or wrong, but your last statement is not true.

I think the worst thing you can do is cancel everything as these are college aged kids and we know exactly what they will be doing if that is the case.
 
TSchekler said:
The only things you have mentioned are unfairness you regular students and players are going to party. What else?
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Jesus, every point has beem beatem to death in this very thread the last several months. I know you already know the talking points.

I get it, you want football no matter what.

I feel playing colleg sports right now is totally irresponsible. I feel ever having the students on campus was irresponsible. Given my views that students should have never been on campus, you can understand why I and others feel college sports should not be being played.
 
Medford M. said:
Jesus, every point has beem beatem to death in this very thread the last several months. I know you already know the talking points.

I get it, you want football no matter what.

I feel playing colleg sports right now is totally irresponsible. I feel ever having the students on campus was irresponsible. Given my views that students should have never been on campus, you can understand why I and others feel college sports should not be being played.
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Oh ok so there aren’t 100 other things and all of this is based on your personal opinion. Got it
 
TSchekler said:
Oh ok so there aren’t 100 other things and all of this is based on your personal opinion. Got it
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You're dense, bud...or being willfully ignorant. Actually knowing you, you're genuinely clueless.

Also, you seem to think I'm the only person in here saying the same things? Apparently?

I'm just glad I'm not as gross as you and the other people pushing for football.
 
Medford M. said:
Jesus, every point has beem beatem to death in this very thread the last several months. I know you already know the talking points.

I get it, you want football no matter what.

I feel playing colleg sports right now is totally irresponsible. I feel ever having the students on campus was irresponsible. Given my views that students should have never been on campus, you can understand why I and others feel college sports should not be being played.
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You know this was NEVER going to happen, Medford. No college wanted to be pushed into MASSIVE tuition breaks they've have been under pressure to take had they kept students at home.
 
Medford M. said:
You're dense, bud...or being willfully ignorant. Actually knowing you, you're genuinely clueless.

Also, you seem to think I'm the only person in here saying the same things? Apparently?

I'm just glad I'm not as gross as you and the other people pushing for football.
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Jeez man what crawled up your ass today.
 
onealcd said:
Jeez man what crawled up your ass today.
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The gross comment...let me explain.

I think it's gross that there's colleges playing sports right now. No respect for those schools and conferences. I think the people pushing for college sports are even more gross.
 
ahoelsken said:
You know this was NEVER going to happen, Medford. No college wanted to be pushed into MASSIVE tuition breaks they've have been under pressure to take had they kept students at home.
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And that's the problem...it's all sickening to me. All about money.
 
Medford M. said:
The gross comment...let me explain.

I think it's gross that there's colleges playing sports right now. No respect for those schools and conferences. I think the people pushing for college sports are even more gross.
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I guess I’m just not understanding why completely? Testing capacity is a lot higher right now and these teams are signing private deals to contain the spread so these players can do what they want. They are clearly more responsible than normal students and make more sacrifices to play their sport so I think it’s perfectly fine for them to play if they can keep numbers down.
 
I'm so glad most of you see things in black and white. Right and wrong. Geesh no middle ground here.
 
onealcd said:
I guess I’m just not understanding why completely? Testing capacity is a lot higher right now and these teams are signing private deals to contain the spread so these players can do what they want. They are clearly more responsible than normal students and make more sacrifices to play their sport so I think it’s perfectly fine for them to play if they can keep numbers down.
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You are insane if you think the athletes are MORE responsible than other students. More sacrifices...yeah, but athletes are some of the least responsible students on any campus.
 
ahoelsken said:
You know this was NEVER going to happen, Medford. No college wanted to be pushed into MASSIVE tuition breaks they've have been under pressure to take had they kept students at home.
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What world do you live in. Many universities are only remote—they are not discounting tuition.
 
Medford M. said:
You are insane if you think the athletes are MORE responsible than other students. More sacrifices...yeah, but athletes are some of the least responsible students on any campus.
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Correct. Some are very responsible, some are extremely irresponsible. Pack a hundred guys in a locker room, playing face to face with guys from another 100 man locker room, blah blah weakest link, etc.
 
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