we have all worked with or for that same personality trait. You know how that goes.
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Arizona post-game thread
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MarkW
Well-Known Member
I'm not going to pretend to know the ins and outs of college football. This includes the finances of finding a coach that will work here at CU. But I do know that it seems silly to spend a gazillion dollars on state of the art facilities in order to consistently win 5 games and not make a bowl. And with the prices that are asked for ticket it's not going to be easy to get 50,000 people into Folsom.
At this point there is no evidence that Mike McIntyre can consistently get the Buffs to a bowl game. I happen to believe with the facilities and the right coaching staff the Buffs can consistently make it to bowl games.
At this point there is no evidence that Mike McIntyre can consistently get the Buffs to a bowl game. I happen to believe with the facilities and the right coaching staff the Buffs can consistently make it to bowl games.
Alright, RG, make it happen. All eyes are on your next move. Sooner than later, preferably.
BerkeleyBuff
Well-Known Member
Les Miles, man. Let’s all munch the grass.
The problem as well in looking at recruiting rankings is that they are a snapshot from a distance, not a microscope looking at needs.
It doesn't matter a lot if our class is ranked 30 or 65 if it doesn't fill our roster needs.
We have been artificially raising our rankings with an abundance of guys at certain positions while failing to fill our needs with P5 level talent.
To maintain a quality offensive line a team should be bringing in normally at least 3-4 guys a year of which 2-3 are legitimate P5 prospects who should be competing to be multi-year starters and maybe 1-2 are the developmental types that you hope will turn out. We in good years for most of MM's time here have been getting 1-2 legitimate P5 prospects out of HS
DL similar. Quality teams take multiple HS prospects expected to contribute. We have had to fill the holes with JUCO guys because so few HS DL recruits have scratched the depth chart for us.
Somewhat. But we've recruited a bunch of OLs who were rated higher than Shenault was.
There will always be a guy or two per class that the coaches look at and say "We don't care what anyone else thinks, that kid will be special."
You don't fill a class with them. You don't take a 220lb OT and say "If he can put on 80lbs he will be as good as the 270 pound kid our rival is recruiting who will be ready to play in 1-2 years." Frankly we have not recruited that many OL who were ranked high enough that they would be considered P5 prospects. We have in the last couple years gotten more of them but where was it 4-5 years ago when we were recruiting the guys who should be our OL core right now.
2017 We got Moretti, Sherman, and Polley which was 3 legits along with Roddick and Paige as maybes
2016 Pursell turned out very good but was a 2* The rest Vaughn, Lytle, and Roberts was a pathetic attempt for a P5 program (even though one or more of those could still turn out.)
2015 Lynott was a legit recruit. The rest all 2* maybes Tonz signed as a DL, Haigler plays but can't play, Middlemiss was a no.
2014 Miller was the best OL prospect and while not heavily recruited may have been very good if he could have stayed healthy. The rest with Holland, Wieffels, and Smith was just bad. Oh we also got a guy who had no other serious P5 competitors named Josh Kaiser who as a 5th year senior is getting beat out by a freshman and who when he plays performs like a mediocre MWC player.
Prior to 2017 our OL recruiting was kindly put pathetic.
If you want to know why we don't compete in the PAC look no further than OL recruiting.
If you do need further evidence then look at DL recruiting.
I remember him blaming injuries in the embarrassment that was the Alamo Bowl too.
Tomdrian75
New Member
What is everyone smoking? How can ANYONE not see that this slide is exclusively the fault of the defense?!?! We are averaging over 32 points per game!! The O-Line and the entire offense are DOING THEIR JOB! They should be able to average 32 points and expect all wins! You have to be pretty blind to blame the past 4 game on anything but defense.
You realize the offense only scored 33 points combined in the USC and Washington games... right?
And only 7 second half points last week.
The offense was pretty good last night, but it HAS been a problem lately. And are you the one smoking crack by saying the OL has done their job? Really?
bamalam out here making new accounts just to advance his pov. So cute
Wait wut? Th e OL cannot get enough push to pinch a collective loaf.
Deleted member 807
Guest
Ups and downs. Out front early but only 10pts with three RZ visits.
Final minutes before the half was back and forth - felt competitive.
Second half was a play from behind bummer.
TDbuff
Club Member
Please no. We’re not LSU coming in after the best coach in college football. Functionally, Les Miles was always a disaster. LSU won in spite of him.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
No program wins a national title in spite of its head coach, come on. Did OSU win in spite of him too?
TDbuff
Club Member
He was 7-5 his last season at Okie State. Yes he won a natty with Saban’s leftover coordinators, like Jimbo Fischer.
I will die on this hill, CU fans idolize Miles because he once set foot in Boulder in the 90’s, but he would be the worst thing we could change to right now.
I’ve never seen someone **** up talent like he did, especially on offense. I’ve had to follow LSU closely because of family, and anyone in Baton Rouge would tell you he couldn’t coach his way out of a paper bag and LSU won in spite of him.
Great recruiter? Sure, but how’s that gonna transfer from a recruiting hotbed at a SEC power house to Boulder?
Tomdrian75
New Member
They average 32 points!!! **** everything else, the offense is scoring!!!
Tomdrian75
New Member
The OL is young, but the offense is scoring!! Do you think Oregon State came back because the D or O blew it??
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
I don't pay as much attention to stars as much as I do who we're up against for the kids we recruit-With Viska as an example, Nick Saban and Alabama were recruiting him. That in itself told me Viska was a player.
Actually both
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
You can die on that hill all you want. I see a guy who was 141-55 as a head coach and had exactly one losing season (his first) in 15 full seasons. I see a guy who turned an Oklahoma State program that had one winning season in the 12 before he got there into a winner. I see a guy who went to a national title game 7 years after Saban left LSU.
There are 4 active coaches who have won a national title but somehow CU, a program with one winning season since the invention of the iPhone, is above hiring Les Miles.
Edit: Also Jimbo was not the OC when they won the title - for a guy who claims to follow LSU closely, you would think you’d know that.
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ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Jimbo Fisher was gone before then. Again-who are the assistants who are coming with him and what does the offense look like? Same questions with pretty much every other prospective candidate I've got outside of Jeff Tedford.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Coordinators and assistants are going to be important no matter who the head coach is.
The offense has not averaged 32 points during this four game slide, so why do you keep throwing it out there?
Both sides blew it. The offense did nothing outside the first play from scrimmage and the one good drive in the second half.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Never said anything to the contrary. The point I'm trying to make is I don't have those concerns with Tedford, and if we make a change, he's gotta be at the top of the list. Lets look at his resume for a second-82-57 at Cal. Sure, he was a mediocre 50-48 in conference play, but I'd argue the Pac 10 was a lot tougher then than it is now because USC was a national power then. Two, he's been in this part of the country his entire career. That does matter. Three, look at his debut seasons at Cal (7-5) and Fresno State (10-4). In both those situations, he took over 1-11 teams. You don't have that kind of success that quickly without a ****-ton of quality people around you at any level who can get the most out of what's already in place while being solid recruiters.
lawdogg
Club Member
I’ll admit, I don’t know much about what Tedford has going at Fresno right now. Why do you say you wouldn’t have any questions about his assistants or offense? Took a quick look at his current staff and outside of Jamie Christian, not seeing many intriguing names for him to bring along.
BerkeleyBuff
Well-Known Member
Relax big guy. It was mostly jest. Miles just cracks me up. But given his record at OSU and LSU, he might still be an improvement over the current.