hawg1
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No. I see why you are having a hard time grasping this now.
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Bowl Games (other than ours) and associated silliness 2024 Plus the Playoffs
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Am I understanding that this is your argument that SOS isn't enhanced by an 8 team conference schedule?
Because...
I still think you're just ****ing with us.
hawg1
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He’s not messing with you. At all. He understands it.
hawg1
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For some of us, this is very entertaining.
That is not my argument.
My argument is that if there's an advantage to 8 game schedules, or body bag games in November, I want my team to look at adopting those advantages and not asking for rule changes.
To this point, I've make no comment at all on where there is or isn't an advantage (but I agree there probably is some advantage the CFP).
I haven't seen someone try this hard to look smart in a while.
ahoelsken
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The 12 best talk from Kirk Herbstreit and others cracks me up. Can you really say you have that with Potato State in this field?
I'm rooting for ASU in any CFP game they play just so the conference looks better.
hawg1
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You can’t hang. You proved that last night. Some of us understand the analytics used by the Committee. Others don’t. Pick a topic.
I sincerely do not see how watching the actual games is any fun for you.
hawg1
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Has he actually called this a “best 12” field? The Committee clearly moved to a “deserving” model when they said Top 4 Conference ranked champs get byes.
hawg1
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Why? These topics aren’t mutually exclusive. They are very intertwined. I have an interest both.
You seem to have hardline, preconceived notions on every team imaginable. Just does not seem fun for teams that no one outside the respective fanbases have watched much throughout the year.
Oh my goodness. Keep going! This level of intelligence is amazing to witness
hawg1
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I have no team. I watch all ball. Traveled to 53 college campus for games. Not sure last time I got into one of those many “I can’t stand XYZ team” convos. I like issues. I like to debate. I understand stars. This particularly convo is fun for me.
hawg1
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You’ll leave soon.
People said the good old days of the BCS or AP selecting the National Champion was awesome because it left for crazy debate all offseason….
You misunderstand. We were never debating. Your opinion is ridiculous, silly, and meaningless. I was just egging you on as part of my dumb plan to make you dig in and look ridiculous. You've surpassed my wildest hopes.
hawg1
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Feeble attempt at a save.
He won't. Unfortunately.
hawg1
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He’s OK, Jens. Room for all.
Not as feeble as that sec schedule!
Just to be clear, I'm arguing two points here (I've lost the thread of whatever the **** Hokie and Hawg are arguing):
1. By playing fewer conference games, teams in that conference benefit from strength of schedule (more wins for their opponents).
Hawg and Hokie seem to disagree with my point, but then Hokie posted a graphic where all of the highest strengths of schedule are SEC teams, which - unless I'm missing something, supports my point.
2. Teams that get into bowl games (not just CFP) have additional practices and exposure, which benefits that team. By reducing the conference losses, teams have a better chance of getting into a bowl game. It's an advantage for a conference to have more teams in bowl games and in the SEC's case perpetuates a narrative.
I'm old enough to remember when Hawg argued last year that the CFP committee followed their own stringent rules regarding FSU's omission, while also acknowledging that committee members got to make up their own criteria for SOS. Then he pointed out that only he understand these things. He truly has a dizzying intellect.
1. By playing fewer conference games, teams in that conference benefit from strength of schedule (more wins for their opponents).
Hawg and Hokie seem to disagree with my point, but then Hokie posted a graphic where all of the highest strengths of schedule are SEC teams, which - unless I'm missing something, supports my point.
2. Teams that get into bowl games (not just CFP) have additional practices and exposure, which benefits that team. By reducing the conference losses, teams have a better chance of getting into a bowl game. It's an advantage for a conference to have more teams in bowl games and in the SEC's case perpetuates a narrative.
I'm old enough to remember when Hawg argued last year that the CFP committee followed their own stringent rules regarding FSU's omission, while also acknowledging that committee members got to make up their own criteria for SOS. Then he pointed out that only he understand these things. He truly has a dizzying intellect.
85alum
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ahoelsken
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That's essentially what he thinks this should be given what he said after Ohio State-Tennessee last night.
hawg1
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Your first point is wrong.
Yes, the Charter used to say that each member could evaluate SOS according to their criteria. They no longer follow the Charter moving from a “best” to “most deserving” 12 team invitational with preferential treatment for conference champions.
His bosses called down and said go hammer this home for the SEC
Okay, but I find it curious that the SEC teams dominate the SOS list that Hokie posted.
And just so I'm clear, your confident point is that an opponent's opponents matter more than their w/l record. Is that correct?
But you understand how absurd it is to argue (as you did for pages) that the member's followed the rules strictly when they omitted FSU, even though they were allowed to use their own criteria within those rules?
The arguments of hawg, Hokie, and a couple of the others are not the kind of silliness I was thinking of when I named the thread but they do qualify.