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Bowl Games (other than ours) and associated silliness 2024 Plus the Playoffs

Alfred91 said:
But you also have to concede that the best teams in the regular season earn those byes, so all things being equal, you would expect those teams to advance in the playoffs as well. Then you also have to factor in that the teams earning the byes play more home games as well. Rest/avoidance of injuries are only one factor.
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I was strictly responding to hokie's post that was specific to the NFL.

We are one round into the first ever CFB postseason that incorporates Byes and we haven't seen the Bye teams play yet.
 
MtnBuff said:
Absolutely.

College football if your team, especially on defense, has a weakness good teams will see it and exploit it.

This years CU team was a perfect example. Buffs had the best player in college football (arguably the best at his position on both sides of the ball,) and the best QB in college football, plus a number of other players who if not this year in the next few years will be highly drafted into the NFL. Despite this opponents found the weak points on the defenses, exploited the weakness of the offense in terms of the running game, and CU is going to a secon tier bowl game.

Basketball is entirely different. A couple of outstanding players, a few "good" players, and some guys who will play defense and rebound and you can win. Even the good tourney teams usually only go 7-9 players deep.

Classid example is the Larry Bird Indiana State team. One guy who is one of the best all time, one guy who was a marginal player in the NBA (Carl Nicks,) and a bunch of guys who wouldn't have started for most of the other top 25 teams but complimented the two stars well enough to win a championship.

Basketball is interesting because we do occasionally see a 15 seed beat a 2. Even then though those lower seeds don't end up in the final four, and in fact it is big news if a team lower than a 4 seed ends up in the final four.

In football we will continue to hear calls for a bigger and bigger playoff number but while there will eventually be some upsets we aren't going to see a lower seed go all the way. What we will do is see a top team lose key players to injury or otherwise get knocked out meaning that the eventual winner won't be the team that was actually best that year.
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Yep
 
Good luck to my Northern Illinois Huskies today in their Famous Idaho Potato Bowl. They struggled a bit after handing Notre Dame their only loss of the season.
 
Jens1893 said:
awfulannouncing.com

ESPN's College Football Playoff coverage makes for a miserable, negative experience

ESPN spent the first weekend of the College Football Playoff bashing underdogs, criticizing fans, and living in the negative.
awfulannouncing.com awfulannouncing.com

Worth reading
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This is what happens when the entity with the sole broadcasting rights has a very public interest in one specific conference doing well and that conference only gets 3 teams in. CFB is such a ****ing mess. There is no reason why ESPN should have the broadcasting rights to the entire playoff.
 
Alfred91 said:
There actually is, but fields such as Boise's awful blue and EWU's even worse red were allowed to stay because they existed before the rule was enacted.
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Tell them to go **** themselves. That turf is a safety hazard for the players anyway.

And don't hold a ****ing bowl game in Boise ****ing Idaho. The players don't want to go there, the TV people don't want to go there, the fans don't want to go there and noone cares about Fresno and Northern Illinois in butt**** ****ing Idaho.
 
Alfred91 said:
Even more reason to ****ing hate ESPN. They have ruined sports in so many ways.
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Not just ESPN although they're obviously the biggest stakeholder. I think the networks in general have too much power and take themselves too seriously, but also because the conferences and teams have let them in exchange for a bag. Much of what's going on in college football is just plain hostile towards the fans and to a large extent only serves the interests of the networks because it's all about TV ratings and nothing else.
 
Jens1893 said:
Tell them to go **** themselves. That turf is a safety hazard for the players anyway.

And don't hold a ****ing bowl game in Boise ****ing Idaho. The players don't want to go there, the TV people don't want to go there, the fans don't want to go there and noone cares about Fresno and Northern Illinois in butt**** ****ing Idaho.
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But think about how many potatoes will be sold because of this elite matchup between two storied programs.
 
MtnBuff said:
Agreed,

Also don't overlook the huge advantage gained by the SEC schools in the late season game they schedule against a lower G5 or FCS opponent.

While schools in other conferences are busy beating themselves up playing a conference opponent the SEC schools get an easy win on their record and a week that is almost like a bye week. Starters play a quarter or two then rest, anyone with a lingering injury sits and recovers, key depth guys get more live playing time making them sharper.
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I mean, only the P12 said you couldn’t schedule an ooc game after oct1 (or wherever it was). We’re hamstringing ourselves at this point.
 
Uncle Ken said:
At no point did I assert that other conferences should adopt a 9 conference schedule.

But I’m not sure how you can argue that fewer total conferences losses doesn’t help a conference. It’s 8 fewer losses spread across the conference.
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Agreeing. Imagine if CU, BYU, ASU, and ISU all had one less conference loss - a 10-2 CU was probably pretty choice over SMU or Tennessee.
 
skibum said:
Injury risk, and general wear and tear were always the biggest advantages to a bye.

Even with that risk, I'm still not sold that the teams with byes have an easier path.
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I agree with you. Look at Oregon. They beat Penn State in the BIG CCG, and their reward is a bye and then a quarterfinal game against tOSU in the Rose Bowl. Penn State gets to play SMU and Boise State while being big favorites in both games.

I've got to hope the NCAA fixes the seeding problem for the next playoff in 2025-26.
 
CarlB said:
I agree with you. Look at Oregon. They beat Penn State in the BIG CCG, and their reward is a bye and then a quarterfinal game against tOSU in the Rose Bowl. Penn State gets to play SMU and Boise State while being big favorites in both games.

I've got to hope the NCAA fixes the seeding problem for the next playoff in 2025-26.
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And that fix is gonna be handing the two most powerful conferences, that dominate everything already, that have the odds stacked in their favor and that have been allowed to design the rules the way they want, an even bigger advantage as those top 4 seeds will be all SEC/B1G in at least 4 out of 5 cases.

I don't think people want to hear it but CU's interests align better with those of Boise State than with those of the SEC or B1G as those in charge don't see a P4 and G5, but rather a P2 and G7.
 
Thank you little baby Jesus for this thread. Amen!

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Alfred91 said:
Well it's time for Adams State to host their own Famous SLV Potato Bowl.

Rex Stadium - Facilities - Adams State University Athletics

The official facilities page for the Adams State University Grizzlies
asugrizzlies.com asugrizzlies.com
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Playing outdoor games in Boston, New York, and Boise means weather isn't a disqualifier. Rex Stadium (Adams State) is listed as having a seating capacity of 1500. Seems that would be sufficient considering the "crowds" we see in some of these games
 
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