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Bowl Games (other than ours) and associated silliness 2024 Plus the Playoffs

Okay, but I find it curious that the SEC teams dominate the SOS list that Hokie posted.

And just so I'm clear, your confident point is that an opponent's opponents matter more than their w/l record. Is that correct?

But you understand how absurd it is to argue (as you did for pages) that the member's followed the rules strictly when they omitted FSU, even though they were allowed to use their own criteria within those rules?
1. It’s not curious to me.
2. There are many ways to determine SOS. It’s not just your opponents W/Ls as previously asserted.
3. There were two factors at play last year. SOS and the QB injury.
 
Has never seemed that genuine. Like he doesn't really believe in anything. Just the take that best suits him at that moment in time.
Maybe you’re right, but that’s definitely not my take. I love Klatt’s insightful X’s and O’s analysis and love of the game.
 
The only thing worse than complaining about something is complaining about the complaining. All solutions for determining a champion in college football will be flawed due to how large the field is compared to other sports.
 
I feel like we're really close to understanding. if only someone would explain themselves a bit more. (You know who you are.)
You've inspired me to keep going.

I'm being assured (and it may be true, but it's weird to me) that:

IF Arkansas was 5-7 team, instead of a 6-6 team (and that extra loss was to, say, Vanderbilt) then it would improve Ole MIss' strength of schedule.
 
You've inspired me to keep going.

I'm being assured (and it may be true, but it's weird to me) that:

IF Arkansas was 5-7 team, instead of a 6-6 team (and that extra loss was to, say, Vanderbilt) then it would improve Ole MIss' strength of schedule.
Yes. That’s possible depending on how SoS is calculated.

On your previous “curious to me” SEC question, examine the exact situation for ACC teams. They play 8 conference games.
 
You've inspired me to keep going.

I'm being assured (and it may be true, but it's weird to me) that:

IF Arkansas was 5-7 team, instead of a 6-6 team (and that extra loss was to, say, Vanderbilt) then it would improve Ole MIss' strength of schedule.
If you replaced Arkansas' win over 4-7 LA Tech with a loss to 6-6 Vandy, yes, the Razorbacks would have a higher SOS.

CU's SOS doesn't depend on CU's won/loss record. CU's SOS is based on our opponents ' won/loss record and our opponents' opponents" won/loss record.

Last night, you called my point silly and unfounded. I asked you politely to explain what point you meant. My request is still open
 
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Please finish your argument regarding data, models, SOS, SOR and all other bull**** you can think of by kickoff of today’s Myrtle Beach Bowl between Coastal Carolina and UTSA. Kickoff is 11am ET.

Otherwise there’ll be consequences.
Good idea. I’ll only respond. Never initiate on this topic.
 
Yes. That was the set up. I’m getting to know him a bit.
Someone of your intelligence should be able to differentiate bait from a statement. Just making sure you know that there are no loopholes. Univariate analyses apply
 
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Hard to bet these bad games.
Agreed. I've got a CCU+NIU parlay today (because I'm a degenerate) and I don't think I've seen a worse coached team this year than CCU. The play calling, clock management and team motivation is tragic.
 
I'll own being the one who was making the playing a game might be more valuable than rest argument.
Injury risk, and general wear and tear were always the biggest advantages to a bye.

Even with that risk, I'm still not sold that the teams with byes have an easier path.
 
Injury risk, and general wear and tear were always the biggest advantages to a bye.

Even with that risk, I'm still not sold that the teams with byes have an easier path.

I still think there is significant risk for a college team to regress when they have 24 days off.

Losing a key player, however, is much worse.

Having said THAT, if OSU, PSU, and Texas came out of their games mostly healthy, I think they've got an advantage coming into their next games.
 
Players can get injured in practice, too.
Philadelphia 76Ers Basketball GIF
 
Without crunching data, I feel there's been evidence that NFL teams don't manage the playoff byes very well. I don't think the take was totally crazy.
This shows through the 2021 Super Bowl in the old NFL format where the 1 and 2 seeds got Byes. To that point the two of them combine for almost 75% of all Super Bowl wins.

2022 Super Bowl - 4 seed vs 4 seed (Rams vs Bengals)
2023 Super Bowl - 1 seed vs 1 seed (Chiefs vs Eagles)
2024 Super Bowl - 1 seed vs 3 seed (49ers vs Chiefs)

 
This shows through the 2021 Super Bowl in the old NFL format where the 1 and 2 seeds got Byes. To that point the two of them combine for almost 75% of all Super Bowl wins.

2022 Super Bowl - 4 seed vs 4 seed (Rams vs Bengals)
2023 Super Bowl - 1 seed vs 1 seed (Chiefs vs Eagles)
2024 Super Bowl - 1 seed vs 3 seed (49ers vs Chiefs)


But you also have to concede that the best teams in the regular season earn those byes, so all things being equal, you would expect those teams to advance in the playoffs as well. Then you also have to factor in that the teams earning the byes play more home games as well. Rest/avoidance of injuries are only one factor.
 
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