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Don't think this is right at all. I'm pretty sure we're a lock for San Antonio and this release is just to try and create hype/excitement over Sunday's announcement. If ASU wins, they go to the playoff and clearly it would be us. If they lose, then why would the Alamo Bowl choose them over Colorado? Colorado brings wayyyyyyyyyy more money in and we'd likely be ranked right next to ASU.
If ASU isn't going to be their choice regardless, why would they say the matchup will be ASU or CU against ISU or BYU? If, as you're claiming, they won't take ASU regardless, why bother couching it the way they did?
 
If ASU isn't going to be their choice regardless, why would they say the matchup will be ASU or CU against ISU or BYU? If, as you're claiming, they won't take ASU regardless, why bother couching it the way they did?
Has anybody ever worked at a business that issued a press statement? Like ever?

The goal of the statement is the optic, not the reality. And frankly, even if CU is the only team in consideration, the Alamo Bowl did not lie in their release.

Saying that they would only take CU would be a bad optic for the Alamo Bowl.

Of course they can't say it. Why burn a bridge?

For all the cynics we have on this board, it's somewhat surprising to me that this narrative is emerging that "Of course they might take ASU. They literally said they might!"

The Alamo Bowl is going to cater to the teams that generate the most excitement, the largest crowd and the most eyeballs.

What I keep asking is, in what scenario would that team be ASU and not CU?

I'm happy to hear the scenario where ASU is the better option for the Alamo Bowl. I can't personally imagine it, though.

But please don't give me the "because they said so" response. I'd like to think that we're not that naive.
 
Still hoping for BYU-CU in the Alamo since we haven't seen those two play each other since the 1988 Holiday Bowl.

That potential Shedeur versus Cam Ward in the Holiday is something I'd be interested in watching.
 
Was that so hard?
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Has anybody ever worked at a business that issued a press statement? Like ever?

The goal of the statement is the optic, not the reality. And frankly, even if CU is the only team in consideration, the Alamo Bowl did not lie in their release.

Saying that they would only take CU would be a bad optic for the Alamo Bowl.

Of course they can't say it. Why burn a bridge?

For all the cynics we have on this board, it's somewhat surprising to me that this narrative is emerging that "Of course they might take ASU. They literally said they might!"

The Alamo Bowl is going to cater to the teams that generate the most excitement, the largest crowd and the most eyeballs.

What I keep asking is, in what scenario would that team be ASU and not CU?

I'm happy to hear the scenario where ASU is the better option for the Alamo Bowl. I can't personally imagine it, though.

But please don't give me the "because they said so" response. I'd like to think that we're not that naive.
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Has anybody ever worked at a business that issued a press statement? Like ever?

The goal of the statement is the optic, not the reality. And frankly, even if CU is the only team in consideration, the Alamo Bowl did not lie in their release.

Saying that they would only take CU would be a bad optic for the Alamo Bowl.

Of course they can't say it. Why burn a bridge?

For all the cynics we have on this board, it's somewhat surprising to me that this narrative is emerging that "Of course they might take ASU. They literally said they might!"

The Alamo Bowl is going to cater to the teams that generate the most excitement, the largest crowd and the most eyeballs.

What I keep asking is, in what scenario would that team be ASU and not CU?

I'm happy to hear the scenario where ASU is the better option for the Alamo Bowl. I can't personally imagine it, though.

But please don't give me the "because they said so" response. I'd like to think that we're not that naive.
The real answer to your question is that we will see if the Prime Effect extends to influence over bowl matchups. I have doubts but I’ve seen and heard some things that they would rather play in SD or Vegas.
 
I feel like 10+ years ago the Holiday Bowl was a more prestigious/higher in the pecking order bowl than the Alamo
$$$$

San Diego as a city has been unwilling to invest in its sports infrastructure for 3+ decades, and the bowl game is part of that. Meanwhile, San Antonio has been willing to invest, including outlaying the cash to the conference.

So while you are correct, it is a lesson in that even bowl games are in competition with each other and can be surpassed.

Similarly, I felt like the cotton bowl declined for a long while, but managed to revive itself at the correct moment.


And.... while we are taking about old bowl games, I'm really disappointed that Tempe let the Salad Bowl die. I mean, I didn't even know it existed until I saw laughed at a banner at ASU that they once went to it, but damn, the Salad Bowl brought to you by Hidden Valley would be so much better than the lawn mower bowl.
 
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ASU is available for Alamo Bowl selection and gets selected. Relatively straight forward.
That would mean ISU won the CCG, the Alamo Bowl is not going to want a rematch of a regular season B12 game (ASU/BYU) regardless of whether ASU is the higher ranked team. I think the only question is which B12 team we are playing.
 
I'm hoping for CU versus BYU. Interesting question. If we win and Alabama loses for a 4th time with a poor showing. Do we jump them in the final polls?
 
It will be CU-BYU for the REAL Big 12 championship in the Alamo Bowl. And CU will win. There’s no way they pick ISU over BYU or ASU over CU regardless of what happens at the CCG. Look into my eyes.
 
Fun fact my grandfather played for the university of Tulsa in the 40’s. He played both ways at tackle. They played in three bowl games.

1944 Sugar Bowl loss to Georgia Tech
1945 Orange Bowl win over Georgia Tech (I have a game ball from that game)
1946 Oil Bowl loss to Georgia who was coached by Wally Butts.
 
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San Diego as a city has been unwilling to invest in its sports infrastructure for 3+ decades, and the bowl game is part of that. Meanwhile, San Antonio has been willing to invest, including outlaying the cash to the conference.

So while you are correct, it is a lesson in that even bowl games are in competition with each other and can be surpassed.

Similarly, I felt like the cotton bowl declined for a long while, but managed to revive itself at the correct moment.


And.... while we are taking about old bowl games, I'm really disappointed that Tempe let the Salad Bowl die. I mean, I didn't even know it existed until I saw laughed at a banner at ASU that they once went to it, but damn, the Salad Bowl brought to you by Hidden Valley would be so much better than the lawn mower bowl.
Fiesta Bowl came from no where to being a player because of community investment
 
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San Diego as a city has been unwilling to invest in its sports infrastructure for 3+ decades, and the bowl game is part of that. Meanwhile, San Antonio has been willing to invest, including outlaying the cash to the conference.

So while you are correct, it is a lesson in that even bowl games are in competition with each other and can be surpassed.

Similarly, I felt like the cotton bowl declined for a long while, but managed to revive itself at the correct moment.


And.... while we are taking about old bowl games, I'm really disappointed that Tempe let the Salad Bowl die. I mean, I didn't even know it existed until I saw laughed at a banner at ASU that they once went to it, but damn, the Salad Bowl brought to you by Hidden Valley would be so much better than the lawn mower bowl.
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Fun fact my grandfather played for the university of Tulsa in the 40’s. He played both ways at tackle. They played in three bowl games.

1944 Sugar Bowl loss to Georgia Tech
1945 Orange Bowl win over Georgia Tech (I have a game ball from that game)
1946 Oil Bowl loss to Georgia who was coached by Wally Butts.
Heh. Heh. You said “Wally”
 
Alamo bowl is tired of the way CU showed out the last couple times we were there?? 3 straight losses (2 of them absolute blow outs).
more than the team's performance at the last Alamo Bowl we were in, I think a factor contributing to the ASU possibility could be concern that CU fans aren't interested enough in going back to San Antonio leading to poor ticket sales.


I still think they pick CU; I'm only stating a contrary factor in the decision making.
 
more than the team's performance at the last Alamo Bowl we were in, I think a factor contributing to the ASU possibility could be concern that CU fans aren't interested enough in going back to San Antonio leading to poor ticket sales.


I still think they pick CU; I'm only stating a contrary factor in the decision making.
Based on what? Speculation (seriously, I don't know)?

Or, they could choose to be part of the Prime media train for weeks and take an opportunity to put two of the top projected NFL picks on the field.

And then - next year - benefit from the exposure and free advertising on the Prime series.

I just don't see a scenario where the Alamo Bowl is in a position to choose between ASU and CU that they would take ASU.
 
Based on what? Speculation (seriously, I don't know)?

Or, they could choose to be part of the Prime media train for weeks and take an opportunity to put two of the top projected NFL picks on the field.

And then - next year - benefit from the exposure and free advertising on the Prime series.

I just don't see a scenario where the Alamo Bowl is in a position to choose between ASU and CU that they would take ASU.
yes, speculation. note my wording "contributing to the possibility could be..." and "I still think they pick CU, I'm only stating a contrary factor..."
 
Other than the free and unlimited Tostitos, I wasn’t impressed with my last visit to the Fiesta Bowl, of course it might also be due to fact the Buffs didn’t want to be there and were destroyed by Oregon and Joey F’n Harrington
The only part of this I read was “other than free and unlimited Tostitos…” then my eyes kind of glazed over.
 
Fiesta Bowl came from no where to being a player because of community investment

Also, the existing bowl system at the time needed more flexibility to accommodate Independents like ND, Miami, FSU, and maybe still Penn St who were all very much in the MNC hunt across a 5-10 year period and the NYD conference tie-ins for Rose (Pac, Big 10), Cotton (SWC), Orange (Big 8), Sugar (SEC) were growing restrictive.

and the Fiesta stepped in and filled that need.
 
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