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CFP Race 2024
- Thread starter Robert Sorell
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I’ll say it again - this 12-team situation has diluted what we are trying to do. If Alabama gets in and beats, say Indiana, then Boise to play in the natty, do we really think they are the best team? Or if Clemson wins the CCG and sneaks in, do we think they even deserve a chance to compete for the championship?
At this point it feels like the old wheel of fortune - “Pat, I’ll take the vacation! The new car! The jet skis!”
Pat: “you still have $2000”
“Ok, uuuuhhhh, I’ll take the Corningwear. And uuuhhh, the ceramic Dalmatian. And uh, a gift card”
At this point it feels like the old wheel of fortune - “Pat, I’ll take the vacation! The new car! The jet skis!”
Pat: “you still have $2000”
“Ok, uuuuhhhh, I’ll take the Corningwear. And uuuhhh, the ceramic Dalmatian. And uh, a gift card”
really good analogy
I don't believe rankings correlate to revenue. I'm not following the point you're trying to make.
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What are we "trying to do"? Serious question, because the 4 team playoff was just about the top 6 blue blood programs with the very rare 2nd tier program sneaking in.
College sports will never have a perfect postseason system, but more meaningful games, more opportunities for the non blue bloods (even if they are non blue blood P2 programs), keeping every fanbase interested, etc should be the goal. The NCAA tournament might be the biggest joke of a postseason in all of sports when it comes to trying to determine a true National Champion or diluting the field of contenders, but it's also arguably the greatest postseason in all of sports.
The good thing is that I think Saliman and RG understand and want this. That's why Prime is here in the first place.
Basketball is different because you only have 10 guys on the court at a time and one player can make a significant difference and can in some cases even carry you all the way. Football has 2 phases and you have 22 on the field and the nature of the game means that no single player can possibly have as a big an impact as he could in basketball.
Not really in college basketball. A few guys, maybe, but it's far more about the entire team. And the concept is still the same.
My bad, when you said “having a bigger piece of the football pie is more valuable than having any piece of the basketball pie" i just correlated that with the importance that they put on their programs, their television exposure, arena sizes, and teams heading to the NCAA tourney. Again, I probably misunderstood.
It's more of a team game than in the NBA, but the basic principle still applies that 10 guys on the court is less than 22 and that one guy has less impact.
yeah, I think it's all about the money.
edit: "primarily about the money". I've said a billion times that exaggeration should be avoided.
The point was in relation to warhawg talking about diluting "what we're trying to do". There is no world where a 14-16 seed in the NCAA tournament actually "deserves" to be playing for a Natty. Probably could make the argument all the way up to like a 9-10 seed as well.
If we’re talking “team”, wouldn’t it be 5 vs 22 (or 21 in CU’s case)? I.e., a singular team has to put out 5 for basketball, and 22 for football (even more when special teams involved). Ergo, over that entire game, 1 bball player can have a bigger impact.
jens is talking about number of players on the field or court at any one time.
if I follow where you're taking this, adding in players from the special teams' units should also happen.
Kinda yeah. But what I’m saying is, because only 5 players are involved for a given team in basketball for the entire game vs 22 (+special teams) for football for half the game, that one player can make more of a difference .
We’re saying the same thing, but visually I would say 10 v 44 since those 10 are doing the whole thing.
You can see ither either way. You see the team as a whole, I mean the game on the court and a player's chances of impacting a single play.
Correct, although the P12 was apparently so ****ty that former P12 teams are poised to win both the B1G and B12, and a former B12 team may win the SEC, but we simply can’t compete with the B1G and SEC gauntlets right?
I mean, can we just jump right to this?
7 SEC, 5 B1G, 4 Big 12, 4 ACC, 3 G5 and ND
7 SEC, 5 B1G, 4 Big 12, 4 ACC, 3 G5 and ND
Dude, I would LOVE to see the Buffs go to Neyland and shut those orange clad cousin ****ers up.
Then go to Boise and shut those blue turf cousin ****ers up.
Then we'd probably get beaten by Texas, but the ride would so much fun.
I'd argue a Quarterback has far more impact than any one individual basketball player in just about every situation. Except Jokic.
unibuff
Well-Known Member
One of the changes i think we will see in the future is to have more games on campus.
I've been to playoff games in the NFL, NBA, and FCS football. They are fun. The players take their game up a notch and fans take their excitement up a notch. I've never seen those arenas/stadiums louder than in the playoffs.
Over the next few years schools are gong to experience home playoff games and the competitive and financial impact (to the community) they have. I think they will say having a home playoff game is great - but having 2 would be better. Their fans would love it - not having to travel.
To get 2 home playoff games you'd need to win games against a tougher schedule than other teams - i bet we'd see more interesting OOC games.
Of course we'd get rid of the bowls' involvement in playoffs - except maybe in the championship. Which would be fine with me.
Not if you start throwing other people out of the lifeboat
CarlB
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If CU dominates the Big 12, has 10+ wins and plays in the CCG most of the time during the next 4+ years, CU will be a member of the Big Ten by 2030.
when you say the P12 was ****ty, I think you're painting with too broad a brush.
the Pac 12 was ****ty when it came to financial and media management. not ****ty when it came to playing football.
I think looking at those aspects separately is important and this will be relevant as we discuss the future of the XII.
Won’t ever happen, but I wish they would just go to more of a post season true playoff instead of an invitational. Take all the subjective BS out of the equation. Top 4 in each conference go into the conference playoff to choose conference champion. 4 conference champions go into national championship playoff. Done. Of course the BIG and SEC would never buy into something like that, and the matchups in the conference playoffs could end up being a lot better than those in national playoffs. It would result in a true national champion.
Funny they already have a 24 team playoff in the FCS. The Big Sky, MVFC, CAA, UAC, and Big South-OVC have a few teams apiece.
10 automatic qualifiers in the FCS playoffs. The Ivy League and HBCU conferences have theirs but they don't use them because they don't participate in those playoffs. There's 14 at large teams.
2024 FCS Playoff Bracket
Editor’s Note: The bracket will be updated as the playoff games are completed. The 2024 FCS Playoff bracket has been revealed and Montana State took the top spot, which is the first time they’ve been…
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So there are 10 FBS conferences and we could have 14 at large teams.
I was being facetious, I think its clear the P12 was a stronger league than it was perceived in the media.