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CFP Race 2024

The Alabaster Yak said:
I was told SOS was not really something the committee looks at. If so, why is 3 loss CU so far behind 3 loss Ole Miss, Alabama and Clemson? Why is CU behind Mizzou? Why are 2 loss ASU, ISU and BYU behind those 3 loss teams?

It’s 100% about the perception and bias from the beginning of the season.
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I think they look at SOR more than SOS.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
Funny how there is magically now 4 B1G and 4 SEC programs being included along with 1 G5, 1 ACC, 1 Big 12, and ND. This ratio/mix is exactly what they and the P2 wanted and we should all probably come to terms with the idea that this is how it's going to be going forward.

Edit: I think the P2 would like to get rid of the G5 inclusion, although I think the networks see value in it
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Maybe the ACC should have taken the proposal for guaranteed bids.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
Is there a viewership market for a football NIT type tournament? I think so, but I’m curious on other people’s takes.
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Absolutely! There would be some great and unusual match ups.

CU vs UNC or Syracuse vs Texas Tech for example. That would be way better than the lower ranked bowls.
 
I want to talk about what I've heard Manuel say about conference championships real quick-

He basically admitted they likely won't punish UGA for a loss in the SEC CCG. Even though that would be #3. Another thing with the CFP race-somehow Alabama is going to make this thing. That's two weeks after a 24-3 loss to an Oklahoma team that had one of the worst offenses I've ever seen. Two Oklahoma players went for 100+ on the ground against the Tide, and Jackson Arnold was one of them. I felt like I was watching Oregon State-Air Force on repeat watching that game.

SMU is 11-1, went undefeated in a power conference-and that ass-clown didn't rule out them not going to the CFP if they lose to Clemson on Saturday.

Do I have that right?
 
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The Alabaster Yak said:
Is there a viewership market for a football NIT type tournament? I think so, but I’m curious on other people’s takes.
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I wouldn't have any interest. By the time the college regular season is over, I've moved on to college hoops, NFL, NBA and looking forward to next season.

If one of my teams made the CFP, then I'd watch that. But I don't pay attention to meaningless bowl games and what you're proposing doesn't seem like it'd be any more interesting.
 
hokiehead said:
I wouldn't have any interest. By the time the college regular season is over, I've moved on to college hoops, NFL, NBA and looking forward to next season.

If one of my teams made the CFP, then I'd watch that. But I don't pay attention to meaningless bowl games and what you're proposing doesn't seem like it'd be any more interesting.
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You get a good matchup in a bowl game and I'll watch it. Good thing about the Alamo Bowl is this-that's prime time on 12/28, and its on ABC. We're going to draw a huge number there regardless of the opponent. CU-BYU/CU-ISU would be something I'd watch if I were a neutral fan.
 
ahoelsken said:
SMU is 11-1, went undefeated in a power conference-and that ass-clown didn't rule out them not going to the CFP if they lose to Clemson on Saturday.

Do I have that right?
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SMU isn’t in a power conference. And neither is CU.
 
steph said:
Won’t ever happen, but I wish they would just go to more of a post season true playoff instead of an invitational. Take all the subjective BS out of the equation. Top 4 in each conference go into the conference playoff to choose conference champion. 4 conference champions go into national championship playoff. Done. Of course the BIG and SEC would never buy into something like that, and the matchups in the conference playoffs could end up being a lot better than those in national playoffs. It would result in a true national champion.
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You're right it would never happen, but what if they did this? This year, it would look like (if we forced ND into the B1G):

  • B1G
    • Oregon vs. Ohio State
    • Penn State vs. ND
  • SEC
    • Texas vs. Alabama
    • Georgia vs. Tennessee
  • ACC
    • SMU vs. Syracuse
    • Miami vs. Clemson
  • B12:
    • ASU vs. CU
    • ISU vs. BYU
That would be a hell of a lot of fun, and it would keep every region of the country interested until at least the semis. Some of those are rematches, so what if they seeded it 1-16? Would look like:

  • Oregon vs. CU
  • Texas vs. Syracuse
  • Penn State vs. BYU
  • Notre Dame vs. Clemson
  • Georgia vs. Iowa State
  • Ohio State vs. Arizona State
  • Tennessee vs. Miami
  • SMU vs. Alabama
 
Denver_sc said:
You're right it would never happen, but what if they did this? This year, it would look like (if we forced ND into the B1G):

  • B1G
    • Oregon vs. Ohio State
    • Penn State vs. ND
  • SEC
    • Texas vs. Alabama
    • Georgia vs. Tennessee
  • ACC
    • SMU vs. Syracuse
    • Miami vs. Clemson
  • B12:
    • ASU vs. CU
    • ISU vs. BYU
That would be a hell of a lot of fun, and it would keep every region of the country interested until at least the semis. Some of those are rematches, so what if they seeded it 1-16? Would look like:

  • Oregon vs. CU
  • Texas vs. Syracuse
  • Penn State vs. BYU
  • Notre Dame vs. Clemson
  • Georgia vs. Iowa State
  • Ohio State vs. Arizona State
  • Tennessee vs. Miami
  • SMU vs. Alabama
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So basically a 16 team playoff? Lol the first scenario will never happen as the SEC wants the possibility of an all-SEC Natty.

I think the most likely CFP format after 2025 will be 14 or 16 teams, with conference champs getting byes in some capacity and probably only the top 2-4 conference champs (I don’t think many of the power players like the idea that Boise is getting a 4 seed and creates a far easier path for the 5 seed than the 1 seed). I also think it will be 4 autobids for SEC/B1G and if ACC/Big 12 are lucky, they’ll get 2 autobids.
 
ahoelsken said:
Neither is Boise State, but they played really hard at Oregon in week 2. I guess we have to give them a bye on the strength of that moral victory, huh?
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My point isn't about Boise, it's that there's the SEC and the B1G and the rest.
 
ahoelsken said:
I know. The hypocrisy around SMU in particular from this committee is astounding to me.
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Yormark said they're looking at logos and not resumes but that's the college landscape in 2024 in pretty much every aspect and pretty much what I've been saying since this current round of realignment gained steam with the OU/UT announcing their moves in 2021 and then USC/UCLA in 2022.
 
Jens1893 said:
Yormark said they're looking at logos and not resumes but that's the college landscape in 2024 in pretty much every aspect and pretty much what I've been saying since this current round of realignment gained steam with the OU/UT announcing their moves in 2021 and then USC/UCLA in 2022.
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I know that BYU did pretty well for the B12 this year, but I kinda wonder what this season would have looked like for the B12 in terms of CFP contention if the B12 had not added UCF/BYU/Cinci/Houston in the last round, but still added the Four Corner schools this last year.
 
Denver_sc said:
I know that BYU did pretty well for the B12 this year, but I kinda wonder what this season would have looked like for the B12 in terms of CFP contention if the B12 had not added UCF/BYU/Cinci/Houston in the last round, but still added the Four Corner schools this last year.
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Good question.

I think people need to change their thinking and move away from principles that applied in the past and start understanding that when it's reasonably close the perceived larger school will get the benefit of the doubt and that stuff like losses, SOS etc. doesn't matter all that much. There is also not a P4, but a P2 as I think that the gap the relevant people see between the P2 and the B12 is larger than the gap between the B12 and, for example, the MWC.

The landscape has changed drastically in pretty much every aspect of the game.
 
Denver_sc said:
I know that BYU did pretty well for the B12 this year, but I kinda wonder what this season would have looked like for the B12 in terms of CFP contention if the B12 had not added UCF/BYU/Cinci/Houston in the last round, but still added the Four Corner schools this last year.
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We'd be in much better position to expand via an ACC "merger" to create a true P3.
 
Buffnik said:
We'd be in much better position to expand via an ACC "merger" to create a true P3.
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That would create a 30 team conference with A LOT of dead weight and seriously ****ed up tie breakers for the CCG.

They would need to do like 5 or 6 divisions and basically have the last 2-3 weeks of the season be a dynamic, mini playoff to determine the Conference Champion.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
That would create a 30 team conference with A LOT of dead weight and seriously ****ed up tie breakers for the CCG.

They would need to do like 5 or 6 divisions and basically have the last 2-3 weeks of the season be a dynamic, mini playoff to determine the Conference Champion.
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or alternatively, during the merger, some current members from each get kicked to the curb
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
That would create a 30 team conference with A LOT of dead weight and seriously ****ed up tie breakers for the CCG.

They would need to do like 5 or 6 divisions and basically have the last 2-3 weeks of the season be a dynamic, mini playoff to determine the Conference Champion.
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No. You wouldn't go full merger. But all of the current ACC members draw a better audience than Cincinnati.
 
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