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CFP Race 2024
- Thread starter Robert Sorell
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The only question in my mind is if the SEC and B1G try and go it alone or if they do the thing that makes the most money, which is kick the Purdues and vandys to the curb and pick the top teams from the big 12 and ACC to create a super leage. In the former situation, the big 12 and ACC will have to do some sort of merger.
A brand new conference entity would probably be required unless the top 8-10 Big 12 teams just joined the ACC leaving the rest behind or vice versa.
I'd be all for a new conference being created with
CU, Utah, ASU, UA, KU, KSU, ISU, BYU, TCU, TTU, OSU, and WVU from the Big 12
Clemson, Miami, FSU, UNC, Louisville, Duke, NC State, and Pitt from the ACC
That'd be 20 teams that would have a few tier 1 brands and make a true third power conference. I'd put that on par with the B1G outside of the tOSU and Michigan brands.
I think it would have on par or maybe even more tier 2 brands than the B1G, but no true tier 1 brands is a problem for sure. The parity would be better.
UVA or Georgia Tech would be much stronger candidates than Duke, IMO (assuming Notre Dame is off the table).
Good call. I completely forgot about those two and VT and would add them in without removing anyone, so maybe add in Baylor from the Big 12 to make a 24 team conference.
I posted this in a thread a few days ago. But I think conference play ins would be 1) a ton of fun for teams and fans and 2) a better way to determine who is the conference winner than ridiculous tiebreakers. KSU would have been screwed this year because they played the hardest schedule of the top 5 but imagine a 3 game play in where CU/ASU/BYU/ISU all play and then the winners play. That would be great tv viewing and a legit way to determine a champion. I also think it will be necessary as conferences increase in size because we will see situations like this pop up more commonly.
If every conference did that and CCGs got pushed back by one week to accommodate, I agree that it would be cool. The top 4 teams in every conference playing in a conference semi-final and the winners playing in the CCG. The only problem with that setup is that it creates at minimum at 17 game schedule for the two teams that play in the Natty, and possibly 18 games if you don't get a bye. That's a lot.
Fair. You could play with the idea of 11 game regular season but you can no longer play a non FBS school. 9 conference games, 1 power 4 matchup, 1 G5 matchup.
Idea: let's get rid of the bull**** fcs/g5 game everybody plays and just get into meaningful play sooner. sec teams have 2 meaningless games!
We really need the ACC and Big12 team(s) that make the playoffs to win and play great.
The SEC and Big superiority complex is completely out of hand.
The SEC and Big superiority complex is completely out of hand.
Maybe we should just go back to the BCS. Oh wait, damm computers must be biased too....
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If only the sec would sack up and play 9 games to open up some daylight instead of letting them beat up on fcs teams in November
Jim Phillips bumbling around trying to make a case for Miami. Points out that the ACC has more wins against the SEC than any other conference. Conveniently leaves out the fact that the ACC went 3-8 against the SEC.
Dude. This is not the point you think it is.
We have discussed, at length, the ways that the AP Poll and the Coaches Poll influences the CFP selection committee I think in this very thread.
2/3 of the BCS formula is based on AP and Coaches poll. Only 1/3rd is computers. It should not be surprising that the BCS would match pretty similarly given that.
Many of the computer rankings system vary pretty drastically from the CFP rankings.
For example, Sagarin has Notre Dame 1st overall, CU in the top 12, and Boise State down around 35. Massey has Ole Miss in the top 10, A&M and LSU in the top 20, and CU 27. Wolfe has BYU 9, SMU 6, Syracuse in the top 20, and only 2 SEC schools in the field of 12.
Yeah, the ACC ****ing sucks. That doesn’t change the fact that the SEC is overrated as ****
Interesting, I did not know that the AP and coaches poll influenced the BCS algorithm! I would honestly love to go back to a BCS style setup where it’s truly analytical. But let’s have a consensus design on the algorithm without any biased interests. E.g. ESPN and Fox do not get to provide any input.
ahoelsken
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Excellent idea, Snow! I'm good never playing CSU in football again.
ASU up 45-10 here. They deserve the bye and the home game for them that I'm sure the Fiesta Bowl will be.
CSU is in the Pac12 now!
Nope, July 1, 2026 is the date they join
The AP and Coaches Poll both have Miami ranked 2 spots lower than the CFP committee does
I am convinced one reason they don’t just go to a straight playoff format is that fans and talking heads love arguing and speculating about it endlessly. That in turn creates more buzz and interest overall and generates better ratings and a lot more money. A straight playoff would be relatively boring.
What’s a straight playoff?
Robert Sorell
Well-Known Member
So, like an arm wrestling match between Sly Stalone and Steven Segall?Opposite of....
Top teams ( based on their record, not rankings or computer evaluation) in each conference go into a playoff for the national championship. Simplest could be top 3 or 4 in each power conference, but that could be modified to put more teams from BIG and SEC in and less from ACC and BIG12. **** ND if they don’t want to join a conference and **** the G5.
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ahoelsken
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You mean the MWC under a different name?
What about he non-“play in” teams? They lose the revenue from a game.