You can read the Terry Frei column in the Denver Post today (don't think i'm supposed to link to their site anymore). Reading between the lines from the interview with Tony Frank, it appears that the new stadium is dead in the water unless they can at least secure enough funding for a scaled back version, which is iffy since they will be scrambling to confirm who is still on board without Graham being there. He won't be extending the fund raising deadline.
You can read the Terry Frei column in the Denver Post today (don't think i'm supposed to link to their site anymore). Reading between the lines from the interview with Tony Frank, it appears that the new stadium is dead in the water unless they can at least secure enough funding for a scaled back version, which is iffy since they will be scrambling to confirm who is still on board without Graham being there. He won't be extending the fund raising deadline.
The Big 12 invite is dependant on keeping Hughes.
The bigger conferences are moving away from on-campus stadiums and prefer remote locations to facilitate room for future expansion. Additionally the Big 12 commissioner has clearly stated that stadium proximity to resevoirs is the primary consideration when expanding conference membership.
Yeah, i the green weenies would be happy with this.
Yes, that is a full 100yd IPF between e stadium and the track, Orlando is the lightning capital of the U.S.
UCF's stadium holds 45K
OK. Way bigger than I estimated. Also way bigger than what CSU needs.
From the sound of things, the CSU stadium is DOA at this point anyway. Even a scaled back version is unlikely. Man, they really screwed the pooch up there. What a mess.
Build it like the stadium above, with one or both of the endzones open. Make it easy and logical to fill in at a later date. Build the stadium for 100mil and move on. The more they push this thing, the more I am worried what they are going to do to the viability of the school as a whole.
I might have missed it, but did they say how much it'll fire to Captain Jack?
60 mil would probably be more realistic at this point.
Build it like the stadium above, with one or both of the endzones open. Make it easy and logical to fill in at a later date. Build the stadium for 100mil and move on. The more they push this thing, the more I am worried what they are going to do to the viability of the school as a whole.
60 mil would probably be more realistic at this point.
I posted this last night, and the ones in this list would be much more appropriate for them except for UCF and Houston because those are too big for what they need:
UCF - 45K, $55 million, Opened 2007
Akron - 30K, $61 million, Opened 2009
Florida Atlantic - 29K, $70 million, Opened 2011
North Texas - 30K, $78 million, Opened 2011
UNC-Charlotte - 15K, $45 million, Opened 2013 (can be easily expanded to 40K)
Tulane - 30K, $75 million, Opening this season
Houston - 40K, $120 million, Opening this season
You will offend CSU by lumping them in with those schools :lol:
How does UCF build a 45K stadium for $55MM? I realize that was 8 years ago, but damn. That's a freaking bargain.
They average less than 20k a game, and probably really less than 15K. This is all they need. For the really big games they could just add some temporary bleachers.
How does UCF build a 45K stadium for $55MM? I realize that was 8 years ago, but damn. That's a freaking bargain.
How does UCF build a 45K stadium for $55MM? I realize that was 8 years ago, but damn. That's a freaking bargain.
Some of you out there that know a lot more than I do about this are invited to comment or correct but I would imagine that in addition to the factors Nik mentioned there are some other major savings as well.
Brainstorming here but plumbing systems don't need to be winterized or protected from freezing, you don't have to account for freezing soils or ice and snow loads, maybe some others as well.
Doesn't sound like much but on big projects little things can turn into millions of dollars fairly easily.
Heard this morning clips from an interview that Jack Graham did yesterday on KOA.
Sounds like the big disagreement came from the administration of the school only being willing to count the $20 million in donations that were either already made or in some way secured. Graham claimed he had $45 million including promises from people via E-mail, letters, verbally, etc. but that had not yet been solidified.
On the reasonable scale I would side with the administration on this one. You don't spend money until you have a solid idea that you will have it to spend.
He may have had another $25 million but if even 1/3 of that didn't come through it would leave them at about $36 million or roughly 1/3 of the year end target after over 1 1/2 years of fundraising.
I don't see how Tony Frank had much option if Graham wasn't willing to look at other less costly possibilities.
Real Estate costs in central Florida are low. Same with Texas as it relates to the UNT project. Also, labor costs are a lot lower due to not having state income taxes and being able to pay less as a direct result. Also, not heavily regulated states. I think that labor conditions & property values are as big of a reason why these projects are happening more often in the South as the popularity of college football in the region.
UCF may have also benefited from some specific deals and concessions. They've been building like crazy on that campus (football stadium, basketball arena, student housing, etc.). I think FlaBuff was right and that the Big 12, if it goes to 12 teams, will expand through UCF and USF.