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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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Nacho problem. Stay out of this.
Republicans.
plenty to debate here
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- Football ranking
- Academic ranking
- All-sports ranking
- Football attendance
- Broadcast viewership
Sports Illustrated’s Power 5 Desirability Ratings
| Overall ranking | School | Football rank | Academics | All sports | Attendance | Viewership | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1. | Ohio State | 2 | 20(t) | 4 | 3 | 2(t) | 31 |
| 2. | Michigan | 16 | 8 | 3 | 1 | 5(t) | 33 |
| 3. | Notre Dame | 6 | 5 | 8 | 16 | 2(t) | 37 |
| 4. | Texas | 12(t) | 14 | 1 | 7 | 7(t) | 41 |
| 5. | Georgia | 3 | 19 | 18 | 8 | 5(t) | 53 |
| 6. | Florida | 18 | 11(t) | 5 | 12 | 12(t) | 58 |
| 7. | Wisconsin | 8 | 17 | 23 | 15 | 12(t) | 75 |
| 8. | Oklahoma | 5 | 52(t) | 10 | 13 | 1 | 81 |
| 9. | USC | 30 | 10 | 12 | 23(t) | 9 | 84 |
| 10. | Alabama | 1 | 55(t) | 21 | 4 | 4 | 85 |
| 11. | Penn State | 7 | 28(t) | 41 | 2 | 10 | 88 |
| 12. | Texas A&M | 12(t) | 30(t) | 24 | 5 | 18(t) | 89 |
| 13. | Auburn | 11 | 41(t) | 31 | 11 | 12(t) | 106 |
| 14. | LSU | 14 | 62 | 16 | 6 | 11 | 109 |
| 15. | Washington | 25 | 24(t) | 27 | 19 | 16(t) | 111 |
| 16. | Clemson | 4 | 33(t) | 58 | 14 | 7(t) | 116 |
| 17. | Stanford | 42(t) | 1 | 2 | 54 | 24(t) | 127 |
| 18. | UCLA | 43 | 6 | 15 | 40(t) | 28(t) | 132 |
| 19. | Florida State | 56 | 22(t) | 14 | 21(t) | 21(t) | 134 |
| 20. | Michigan State | 27 | 38(t) | 39 | 18 | 15 | 137 |
| 21. | Iowa | 9 | 38(t) | 52 | 20 | 21(t) | 140 |
| 22. | (tie) N. Carolina | 48(t) | 11(t) | 6 | 39 | 41(t) | 145 |
| 22. | (tie) Oregon | 20 | 41(t) | 30 | 36 | 18(t) | 145 |
| 24. | Tennessee | 54 | 45(t) | 13 | 9 | 28(t) | 149 |
| 25. | (tie) Oklahoma St. | 10 | 65(t) | 22 | 30 | 24(t) | 151 |
| 25. | (tie) Miami | 23(t) | 22(t) | 48 | 34 | 24(t) | 151 |
| 27. | Iowa State | 15 | 48(t) | 40 | 23(t) | 35 | 161 |
| 28. | Mississippi | 35 | 55(t) | 19 | 31 | 23 | 163 |
| 29. | Northwestern | 38 | 2(t) | 35 | 58 | 32(t) | 165 |
| 30. | (tie) NC State | 37 | 36(t) | 17 | 26(t) | 53(t) | 169 |
| 30. | (tie) Arizona St. | 23(t) | 47(t) | 25 | 38 | 36(t) | 169 |
| 32. | Virginia | 48(t) | 9 | 1 | 51 | 52 | 171 |
| 33. | Nebraska | 46(t) | 54 | 47 | 10 | 16(t) | 173 |
| 34. | Arkansas | 60 | 59(t) | 7 | 25 | 24(t) | 175 |
| 35. | (tie) Virginia Tech | 41 | 33(t) | 32 | 21(t) | 49(t) | 176 |
| 35. | (tie) Indiana | 42 | 30(t) | 57 | 48 | 36(t) | 176 |
| 35. | (tie) Utah | 17 | 41(t) | 42 | 42 | 34 | 176 |
| 38. | TCU | 22 | 38(t) | 38 | 49 | 31 | 178 |
| 39. | Minnesota | 28 | 30(t) | 27 | 45 | 49(t) | 179 |
| 40. | Kentucky | 26 | 52(t) | 9 | 32 | 61(t) | 180 |
| 41. | BYU | 50 | 36(t) | 28 | 26(t) | 41(t) | 181 |
| 42. | Purdue | 36 | 20(t) | 51 | 35 | 45(t) | 187 |
| 43. | S. Carolina | 52 | 47(t) | 36 | 17 | 36(t) | 188 |
| 44. | Mississippi St. | 21 | 67 | 63 | 28 | 20 | 199 |
| 45. | Baylor | 39(t) | 33(t) | 45 | 47 | 36(t) | 200 |
| 46. | California | 55 | 7 | 26 | 55 | 58(t) | 201 |
| 47. | Pittsburgh | 33 | 24(t) | 62 | 52 | 36(t) | 207 |
| 48. | Wake Forest | 32 | 11(t) | 43 | 66 | 58(t) | 208 |
| 49. | West Virginia | 29 | 69 | 56 | 29 | 28(t) | 211 |
| 50. | Duke | 63 | 2(t) | 20 | 69 | 67(t) | 221 |
| 51. | Texas Tech | 44(t) | 68 | 37 | 33 | 41(t) | 223 |
| 52. | Maryland | 58 | 24(t) | 44 | 57 | 41(t) | 224 |
| 53. | Missouri | 44(t) | 49(t) | 53 | 37 | 53(t) | 236 |
| 54. | Georgia Tech | 62 | 16 | 60 | 36 | 53(t) | 237 |
| 55. | (tie) Louisville | 53 | 65(t) | 33 | 44 | 45(t) | 240 |
| 55. | (tie) UCF | 19 | 55(t) | 67 | 50 | 49(t) | 240 |
| 57. | Colorado | 61 | 41(t) | 54 | 43 | 45(t) | 244 |
| 58. | Kansas State | 31 | 59(t) | 64 | 40(t) | 53(t) | 247 |
| 59. | Illinois | 66 | 18 | 50 | 59 | 58(t) | 251 |
| 60. | Syracuse | 59 | 24(t) | 61 | 60 | 53(t) | 257 |
| 61. | Arizona | 65 | 25(t) | 34 | 53 | 61(t) | 258 |
| 62. | Boston College | 51 | 15 | 66 | 61 | 66 | 259 |
| 63. | Vanderbilt | 68 | 4 | 59 | 67 | 63(t) | 261 |
| 64. | Washington St. | 39(t) | 63(t) | 65 | 64 | 32(t) | 263 |
| 65. | Rutgers | 67 | 28(t) | 46 | 56 | 67(t) | 264 |
| 66. | Cincinnati | 34 | 55(t) | 69 | 62 | 45(t) | 265 |
| 67. | Oregon State | 64 | 59(t) | 41 | 63 | 67(t) | 294 |
| 68. | Kansas | 69 | 49(t) | 55 | 68 | 63(t) | 304 |
| 69. | Houston | 57 | 63(t) | 68 | 65 | 63(t) | 316 |
You have bean deceived.
Iowa St at 27? Uh, no.
BUFFS14
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What year?
Yelled at a bunch of frat boys in a Lexus that they were taking too long, then kept yelling even after they'd ordered. One of them punched me in the face and I laughed; they weren't quite sure what to do after that so went back to their car and drove off without collecting their taco bell.
As you might have guessed, I was very inebriated.
BUFFS14
Well-Known Member
This is unfortunately where a lot of people go when you talk about the past. SI did us no favors
WHAT PRICE GLORY?
There are a few things a university of colorado campus policeman won't leave the office without: handcuffs, his copy of the Miranda warning and a University
vault.si.com
“Single biggest recruiting sex scandal in college football history” in which no players, coaches, or anyone connected to the program were ever charged, convicted, or even brought to trial…. for ANY crime:
“A grand jury investigation into whether booze and sex were used to entice Colorado football recruits ended with an indictment against just one person — a former low-level school employee accused Tuesday of soliciting a prostitute for himself.
The grand jury accused only Nathan Maxcey in its indictment, making no mention of university officials, students or recruits.” (Arizona Daily Sun, Aug. 24, 2004.)
And this was a grand jury—re “You can get a grand jury to indicte a ham sandwich.”
Maybe I misunderstood the comment… was that meant to be sarcastic or ironic? I’m also curious: which other “recruiting sex scandals” was it bigger than?
Don't bother with the facts.
They will adjust the facts to fit their agenda.
It is sad that nobody was able to sue Mary Keenan for the damage she did to so many young men.
In no way arguing that the CU program was full of choir boys but after Keenan and Paula Woodward and the rest were done, and with the pathetic and disgusting cowering response of Betsy and the rest of the CU administration the general public perception was that anyone on the CU football team, especially anyone Black but also including the white players, was an out of control rapist.
I know for a fact that that team had a significant number of high quality young men who suffered significant blows to their reputations because of this made up scandal.
What should have been the best time of their lives was turned into them having to defend themselves against public opinion created by the political greed and aspirations of Keenan
I like that term "brands". What makes a good brand? CU has not been relevant for over 20 years, but I think has a better brand than Utah which have been a very successful program for awhile now. But yes, I'm biased.
Is brand dictated by the market area? The college town? Fan support.? Alumni? Again, I'm biased, but almost every team in the Pac-10 has better cache than most of the teams in the Big 12. University presidents and Board of Regents like to compare and use academics and R$D investment as a priority, e.g., the AAU. The media and its dollars don't give a **** about that. Of course they can look at viewership to dictate what brand they want, but that's a little chicken and egg. Some of the teams in the SEC and B1G now don't have a high brand, but are getting a **** more dollars than CU.
And as you question, how does Big12 get a bigger package than PAC10? It's rhetorical (e.g. re: Larry Scott), but still wonder.
Edit: Just saw Hokie's good link and chart for "desirability"
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Given the understanding of most of the hardcore fans that pretty much nothing came from that whole situation beyond the reputational and PR hit, I think the fans tend to underestimate how much scar tissue that left in the AD and the school administration in terms of preferring to avoid even the whiff of impropriety and the impact that has had on the school's willingness to go all in to be competitive in football.
The impact is still being strongly felt.
Unfortunately what doesn't get recognized by the community at large outside of those hardcore fans is that the wounds that those scars cover were self-imposed.
Had the administration had the courage to stand up to Keenan and those in the media who bought her story the whole thing would have been a bump in the road instead of the long term and widespread disaster that we got.
I'd start by questioning, in 2003, how much* of the current school administration was in their current roles? employed by CU in some capacity?
"how much" should probably be both a function of quantity of people and impact of their roles
The only one left is Phil. That should tell you everything you need to know.
I mean, this is subjective af, and anything that has BOTH Iowa schools above the majority of P5 schools is very shady at best, but what really pisses me off is our academic ranking. I mean, haven't we been blowing everything else off so that we can be academically 'elite'?
It just confirms what I've known for years now. CU Boulder has declined in every way since I went to school here, and there doesn't seem to be any interest at all in actually reversing that trend. It's not that we're **** in football. We're **** in everything, and the ****wads in charge are just fine with that.
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Haven’t we all?
We still went in.
BUFFS14
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We had an issue back when I was there. Local Denver gang bangers wanted to fight some of our out of state players because of colors. Thats were it was going to happen until the cops showed up. No player were arrested that time.
I'm of the firm opinion that you are correct here, and also that there is one constant in all of this: Phil Distefano. I honestly don't know why he hasn't been moved to greener pastures.
Students hate him, grad students hate him, faculty hate him, his responses to crisis have been inadequate if not downright harmful, and I've seen nothing from him to indicate a vision or plan to keep CU at or above peer level- he seems content to ride it out and perform the status quo until he retires. **** him.
Mark Kennedy sucked ass but at least he had a ****ing plan.
Not seeing anything from CBS Sports