Howell is a nuthugger who repeatedly spews beta in an attempt to lock down Woelk’s job once he retires. Adam wants Big12 and I agree
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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If Cal gives the B1G a huge chunk of SF Bay area subscribers with bumped money and Cal takes a discounted payout, they would be a very attractive. This also helps because Stanford may be willing to listen more intently.
Dr. Phil will be watching Cal, Stanford, UW and Oregon go to the prom while he is stuck at home playing Canasta with RG.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
Old Maid.
I know all the focus is on football, but also consider that CU is tied with Oregon State and Wazzou for the fewest varsity sports offered in the P12 and would be the fewest in the B1G. CU would be the only B1G school without a wrestling program (Cal doesn't have one, either), the only one without a softball program, and one of two without a baseball program (Wiscy is the other).
Cal offers 14 mens varsity sports and 16 women's varsity sports, which would be the third most and second most respectively in the B1G.
Go Fish.
But in that scenario, Stanford has to be worth much, much more, right? Because if Cal delivers Bay Area subscribers, then that's no longer a selling point for taking Stanford, too.
There is the theory that getting Stanford in the B1G might help land ND, which is the biggest prize available.
I think that could be taken into consideration as a tie breaker by the conference, but Fox is driving the bus and I can’t imagine that matters at all to them.
Let’s be honest, the “criteria” Warren mentioned is a nice sound bite, but nothing has actually changed in what they’re looking for… market size, ratings, brand.
Of course Stanford is more valuable. I’m just offering a theory why Cal may be a consideration (especially at a discount).
hawg1
Well-Known Member
Cal taking a discount in the B1G - even a 50 percent haircut - would be more than a full share in current P10.
P12 economics just don’t work.
It's really not any different than USC/UCLA. Cal/Stanford gives you the entire bay area and basically the entire Northern California market.
The P12 was murdered by the LA teams leaving. The P10 has simply not acknowledged that they’re in hospice.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
Strong words. But appropriate. Truth.
Big Ten evaluating Cal, Oregon, Stanford and Washington from Pac-12 as further expansion considered
Could the Big Ten balloon to a 20-team (or more) league?
www.cbssports.com
RickGeorgeIsAnIdiot
Member
Dead Serious
i saw some chart from some random twitter guy that showed us getting a half or less rev share compared to uo and uw and stanford and cal. why would we ever do that? that makes zero sense. take the 4 corners and run for the remnant 12 if that is true.
or call sankeY! sec! sec! sec! lolololol
or call sankeY! sec! sec! sec! lolololol
i see it all so clearly now-- we panic and join the b12, utah gets left out and gets a big invite in the next round.
ahahahahahaaaahhaahahaaaha, no wonder everyone is scrambling -- the number of ways to **** oneself up permanently are endless and the sure-fire ways to avoid that are super limited.
ahoelsken
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Are the odds better with them than the B1G? I don't see Sankey conceding the west to the B1G.
just keep pointing the hand wringers at CU to vanderbilt and uga and uf and texas. ol miss? msu? etc. oh them? look over here instead.
also i think a reason that the big is waiting to ink their deal before any more invites is no add beyond usc ucla or nd is going to be revenue accretive. whomever they let in next will be a junior partner. even junior partners are probably going to make more than what we are currently facing.
same for the sec. if we indulge the fantasy that they do want to expand west, no way we get anything resembling an equal share at joining.
same for the sec. if we indulge the fantasy that they do want to expand west, no way we get anything resembling an equal share at joining.
It's ok - as long as we have a full share by the time Phil actually retires (or dies) it'll be fine. We aren't going to be competitive until one of those things happens anyway.
We would also fit into Sankey's comments of the SEC being in contiguous states, so there's that.
I think the SEC has an automatic escalator to their deal, so we'd be able to get a full share there immediately. If the B1G tries to lock the SEC out of the western time zones, an SEC move to snag Phoenix and Denver (ASU & CU) would not be all that shocking.
Even putting the obvious benefits to money and program relevance aside, I'd be pretty good being with ASU, Mizzou, OU, UT & aTm. Pretty damn strong 6-team group if the plan would be to finish it off at 24 total SEC members in 4 groupings for scheduling. Be a really nice 8-game schedule.