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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

SewallBeach said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1839466606831063438
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He's a moron. Nobody, and l literally mean nobody, in the Chicagoland area gives a fvck about NIU football. One week after the ND win they faded into obscurity. They're almost never on broadcast television. My own brother-in-law went there and he doesn't pay attention to the school. It's a glorified commuter school. So, tell me Brett, what value are they adding? Go pound sound.
 
pmoney52 said:
He's a moron. Nobody, and l literally mean nobody, in the Chicagoland area gives a fvck about NIU football. One week after the ND win they faded into obscurity. They're almost never on broadcast television. My own brother-in-law went there and he doesn't pay attention to the school. It's a glorified commuter school. So, tell me Brett, what value are they adding? Go pound sound.
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I don't think Brett was giving a take of his own. That read like something fed to him by MWC or NIU/Toledo to make the case for why they are valuable. Most scoop is like this: a party getting their messaging to the public by using a trusted media person so they don't have to do a press release or go on record.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
I believe the residual PAC 12 money was based on the conference itself remaining in tact.
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Wouldn't a reverse merger have technically kept the conference intact? OSU and WSU ****ed this up big time. They had the chance of creating the best of the G6, even if that meant the dead weight of SJSU, UNM, and Hawaii, but instead they thought they could just cherry pick and it ****ed them in the ass.
 
pmoney52 said:
He's a moron. Nobody, and l literally mean nobody, in the Chicagoland area gives a fvck about NIU football. One week after the ND win they faded into obscurity. They're almost never on broadcast television. My own brother-in-law went there and he doesn't pay attention to the school. It's a glorified commuter school. So, tell me Brett, what value are they adding? Go pound sound.
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Damn, what did NIU football do to you??
 
Bison said:
www.espn.com

Sources: Big Ten, SEC eye schedule partnership

SEC and Big Ten athletic directors will meet next week to discuss a possible partnership in football scheduling and preferences for automatic bids, sources told ESPN.
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It is looking more and more to me like there's going to be one last bit of expansion/ consolidation at the top - most likely timed to acc & b12 media rights deals ending.

If we don't make it into the P2 when it goes down, we're forever relegated.
 
skibum said:
It is looking more and more to me like there's going to be one last round of expansion/ consolidation at the top.

If we don't make it into the P2 when it goes down, we're forever relegated.
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How do they avoid an anti-trust lawsuit against this if they are colluding to exclude 60% of the D1 teams. It’s time to get political leadership involved to it at least ensure at least the flagship schools have access.
 
This CFP is gong to be unnecessarily important.

For the 7 at large bids, I think 5 or 6 end up going to the SEC/B1G with 1 or 2 going to the Big XII/ACC+Notre Dame.

What happens with the matchups that shake out of that can move the needle.

Maybe Boise/UNLV pulls a miracle win from the #12 seed, but they're going to catch one of the P2 CCG losers on the road, like Penn St or Tennessee.

Then I'm really pulling for the rest of the P2 at large teams to lose.

If the ACC/XII pulls out a few big CFP wins, it gives them a lot more gravitas in the negotiations for autobids.
 
SuperD said:
How do they avoid an anti-trust lawsuit against this if they are colluding to exclude 60% of the D1 teams. It’s time to get political leadership involved to it at least ensure at least the flagship schools have access.
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Define "colluding" in an legal way that the current supreme court will uphold in an anti trust lawsuit.

I'm serious.

Absolutely nothing is preventing other schools from creating competing conferences and selling those broadcast rights.

If they can't create a product that is more valuable, it's on them to fix, not the law.
 


UConn talks are still ongoing if you believe Mr. Flugar, which I do as he was 100% correct on all of the CU to Big12 chatter. The man has his resources/intel for sure.
 
Adding UCONN is the equivalent of the Big10 adding Rutgers. It gives us visibility in the NYC market. Hopefully they get their football act together.
 
Boulder said:
Keeping Deion until the next set of realignment happens needs to the goal. Of CU can capitalize on what is happening with football they can land in the Power 2.
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Our ONLY goal should be to get into the P2/Superleague, period, we cannot let the CFP act like a real endgame because it is going to be pulled away as soon as the final format is completed.
The Big12 is meaningless and actually is already hurting us by us playing some lower brand teams. It is the right competition for us right now, but anyone that watched the Alabama v Georgia game had to come away knowing we would get murdered. A Boise v Georgia game would be 50-0
I am convinced that the value of keeping Prime and getting to the P2/Superleague is worth $500 Million in added long term value and Prime knows that, but I am not sure RG even gets it. This is now mega business, and striking out is like Musk buying Twitter and losing 75% of the value.

The PAC12 is trying to get to a $15M per year TV deal, while the B1G10 is heading for $100M

I would pull off the Public Private Partnership model, lock up Prime forever and plot a course to the Superleague immediately, anything less is charades.
 
Alfred91 said:
Wouldn't a reverse merger have technically kept the conference intact? OSU and WSU ****ed this up big time. They had the chance of creating the best of the G6, even if that meant the dead weight of SJSU, UNM, and Hawaii, but instead they thought they could just cherry pick and it ****ed them in the ass.
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We're talking about the same dumbasses in Schulz and Mayarthi (not sure if I got that one right) who basically greenlit the end of the Pac 12. Not shocked to see them shoot themselves in the foot AGAIN.
 
Buffs35 said:
UTEP to mountain west? Pac 12 must be toxic.
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I don't know if the Pac had interest in UTEP, but they're a great addition for the MWC. There's a good rivalry there with UNM, primarily for hoops. I'd expect the MWC to target another former WAC co-member. Maybe LA Tech? They also have the option of making Hawaii a full member. There have got to be Hawaii donors or even government support which would allow them to make some financial concessions on travel if necessary, right?
 
Perhaps this means Texas State to the PAC? The MWC & AAC are also interested in the Bobcats.
 
ahoelsken said:
Air Force made $20m because CSU has no leadership.

AFA needs CSU about as much as we do.
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It appears CSU miscalculated jumping too early. I think they thought AFA would bolt to the AAC. Then another of the southern MWC (UNLV) teams would follow to the PAC. Initially, I don't think they envisioned a NoCal/NW footprint (except for SDSU) and they thought the $$ would be worth it, as the PAC totally out-classes the MWC. Now UNLV and Air Force get bonuses for staying. CSU is sapped with all the additional travel costs. I'm not convinced the new PAC fans will travel to FOCO like the MWC teams, given the added distance. All CSU's rivalies probably go away. They do not really have a travel partner--Utah State?? It be harder for them to win the PAC compared to the adjusted MWC.

As things have shook out, I envision any PAC-12 TV deal only marginally better than the MWC, given it will be mid-major $$'s. The exit fees will be litigated/negotiated but should hurt the PAC and help the MWC short-term, if enforced. Unless the CFP radically changes, it really is all the mid-majors playing for one playoff spot. The radical change to the CFP looks to be headed in the other direction for a P2.

Appears UTEP is a fit for MWC. I wonder if New Mexico State wants to come back home? They have not been good in football, but decent in men's hoops. Not sure where the PAC will turn for another football team, my bet is on Cal-Davis, Sac St. or a Big Sky team moving up a division further packing in the NoCal/NW geography.
 
GRM said:
It appears CSU miscalculated jumping too early. I think they thought AFA would bolt to the AAC. Then another of the southern MWC (UNLV) teams would follow to the PAC. Initially, I don't think they envisioned a NoCal/NW footprint (except for SDSU) and they thought the $$ would be worth it, as the PAC totally out-classes the MWC. Now UNLV and Air Force get bonuses for staying. CSU is sapped with all the additional travel costs. I'm not convinced the new PAC fans will travel to FOCO like the MWC teams, given the added distance. All CSU's rivalies probably go away. They do not really have a travel partner--Utah State?? It be harder for them to win the PAC compared to the adjusted MWC.

As things have shook out, I envision any PAC-12 TV deal only marginally better than the MWC, given it will be mid-major $$'s. The exit fees will be litigated/negotiated but should hurt the PAC and help the MWC short-term, if enforced. Unless the CFP radically changes, it really is all the mid-majors playing for one playoff spot. The radical change to the CFP looks to be headed in the other direction for a P2.

Appears UTEP is a fit for MWC. I wonder if New Mexico State wants to come back home? They have not been good in football, but decent in men's hoops. Not sure where the PAC will turn for another football team, my bet is on Cal-Davis, Sac St. or a Big Sky team moving up a division further packing in the NoCal/NW geography.
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I think NMSU probably has less value than if the MWC invited Idaho to move back up to FBS. NMSU is 2nd fiddle in a barely relevant state for recruiting and media, has zero national cache, and even locally its metro market is basically a suburb of the El Paso market the MWC just got with UTEP.
 
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