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CU @ UCF - September 28 @ 1:30 PM MT Pregame Thread
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Can't think of anyone better to be advising our returner. Hester's the best to ever do it.
No doubt that coaching matters, and that is why things are even more perplexing in terms of the brain trust of QB, QB Coach, OC, HC
I think it's obvious that where Prime is going to sink or swim is with staff hires. He seems to have gotten it right with Livingston, now, assuming he stays for next year, whether he can get it right with OC. I can't imagine Shurmur is here next year.
Setting aside all the bulljunk about "dominating" and "showing out", if this team can't get to at least 7 wins, then they drastically underperformed, and I will consider it a failure of coaching.
Cutler's numbers were pretty consistent between Denver and Chicago. I excluded 2016 where he only played five games and dealt with injuries throughout the season.
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Any QB would air it out on 90% of plays if you let him. Playcalling decisions are 100% on coaches. It’s shocking that a former NFL head coach turned college OC doesn’t have a more fine-tuned offense.
His Chicago numbers are better than I thought they were. Compare them to what the Broncos had between Cutler and PFM. ****ing McDaniels.
I still think though that if Shanny the GM hadn't have gotten Shanny the HC fired in Denver, Cutler could have been an elite QB, which was all I was pointing out. Comparing Shedeur to Cutler is actually a good comparison in terms of what the right coach can do for a QB.
You assume he had a choice.
Cutler threw too many interceptions, and Shedeur takes too many sacks
Watching the Illinois v Nebraska game was painful in that Altmyer managed that game brilliantly, and they ran a pro offense to control the game flow
Colorado gave up 6 sacks and Illinois gave up 2 sacks
Colorado ran for 46 yards and Illinois ran for 166 yards
Illinois was rarely in 4 or 5 wide sets because they know that in the B1G or SEC or NFL, that just does not work anymore
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Hester was great but give me Louis Lipps for pure excitement in 84 & 85. I don't think anybody ever told him you could call a fair catch
Weiner*
That's a blast from the past. He was fun to watch.
I'm not sure it's accurate to compare a QB in the Illinois offense to a QB in the Colorado offense. Bielema is perfect for the Big Ten and has already started to be successful in building his team the way he has had success with in the Big Ten in the past. Illinois's OL is much more well coached and they've built a team suited for what Bielema's teams always do. It is also worth noting that Bielema and his OC have had a 3 year head start on Prime and Shurmur, so they're been able to build for what they want to do.
You want to know how I know you're old?
So Bielema knows how to build a competent OL. That is pretty much the only difference I see.
And he's run-first. His QBs have never been known to be more than adequate at best.
Brandon Allen, Russell Wilson.
I'll see your Louis Lipps and raise you Billy "White Shoes" Johnson.
I'll give you Russ (though he only had him a year), but would we call Brandon Allen a better than adequate QB?
“Wiener arm”? I think that was John Holmes. Cody had a noodle arm.
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He's a nine year vet in the NFL, so yeah, I'd say he was better than adequate. Being an Arky fan, he was definitely more than adequate in college. Career 134 QBR in college 57 % Completion avg. 7.3 ypa 64/26 TD/INT ratio, I'd take that everyday of the week for a QB.
Cody played 4 years and never had a year below 100 QBR.
I know most of you are mad at his dad, but he could have easily won 10 games in a year if he had a WR that wasn’t named Scotty McKnight, who should have been a 3rd option at best.
Sure he was short and hit the OL helmets on some throws, but I don’t think he had a noodle arm by any means.
I know most of you are mad at his dad, but he could have easily won 10 games in a year if he had a WR that wasn’t named Scotty McKnight, who should have been a 3rd option at best.
Sure he was short and hit the OL helmets on some throws, but I don’t think he had a noodle arm by any means.
Wow. May I suggest a visit to the optometrist?
I stand corrected. I bet Cody was pretty good at darts. You don't have to throw far in that game.
