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you may wanna put a pin in that very good recruiting class...8. Maybe it's Pollyannaish but he's an assistant HC for an NFL team. Sure, it's only been a few days, but he's obviously an important part of an NFL organization. Now he's coming here with a very good recruiting class, a better roster than the one that won 5 games last season and 0 expectations. Seems like there's nowhere to go but up
you may wanna put a pin in that very good recruiting class...
They signed LOIs. They will have to not enroll and sit out to be able to go anywhereyou may wanna put a pin in that very good recruiting class...
some news will likely be dropping soon... and then there's the transfer portalThey signed LOIs. They will have to not enroll and sit out to be able to go anywhere
Technically he is from the McCartney eraFour.
I don’t hate the move, I just have reservations when you get a guy from the past. Especially a guy from the neuweasel era.
You’re the single 10 voter, eh? Well done.
Hires invoke excitement.Exciting is a weird question. I don’t see how anyone is excited about the hire. He’s just not someone who invokes those emotions on the surface, IMO. That doesn’t mean he’s not an okay hire with a chance to be far better than anticipated. I think there are more unknowns about how he will manage this program than any other candidate out there, good or bad.
At the end of the day, I guess I trust that RG and LC have addressed his past “failures” and have a well thought out plan for assistants and recruiting. I have a very hard time believing they went from finalizing a contract with ace recruiter Steve Sarkisian to hiring Karl Dorrell within 48 hours, without feeling comfortable that Dorrell can recruit at an acceptable level.
6. Given the fact the administration doesn’t care about the football program and it’s the end of February it was an ok hire. I’m also starting to feel like CU is an undesirable place to coach.
Hires invoke an emotion based on a persons pre conceived idea about what they think the hire should look like.Hires invoke excitement.
I'm seeing strong negative emotions on this one.
I'm seeing most people in the mid-range (+/- 2 from a "5"), with that skewing toward frustration instead of hope.
I think they over-valued someone who wouldn't bolt at the first opportunity -- and they were holding out to not let that drive the decision but made a hard turn in that direction when the Sark negotiations reinforced the problem.Hires invoke an emotion based on a persons pre conceived idea about what they think the hire should look like.
This came out of left field, it’s not a sexy name and there are a lot of questions surrounding key aspects of his ability to do the job at a high level that we don’t know the answers to or the plan for.
Do you, personally, believe Rick George and Lance Carl threw their hands up and said “**** it” (when Sarkisian backed out) we’ll just hire this random guy because he was a Buff coach 25 years ago? Or do you believe he was always on their short list of candidates for calculated reasons, they feel comfortable with the plan he has for the program, and that’s why they moved on him so quickly after Sark backed out?
Gotta be some formula to measure the spectrum between a desirable football program or some kind of coaching graveyard.
HC / tenure / Record/Exit / Next Job
Fairbanks/3yr/ 7-36 /Fired /USFL HC
McCartney /13yr/93-55-5/Quit/left football
Neuheisel/ 4yr/33-14/Hired Away/ HC UDub
Barnett/ 7yr/49-38/Fired/left football
Hawkins/5yr/19-39/Fired/CFL HC
Embree/2yr/4-21/Fired/NFL assistant
MacIntyre/5yr/30-44/Fired/Ol’Miss DC
Tucker/1yr/5-7/hired away/HC MSU
8 coaches - 5 fired.
5 did not immediately return to NCAA.
1 to NFL.
1 to Canadian League.
1 to USFL
2 hired away as HC for more $.
2 retired permanently from football
trends: shorter tenures, fewer winning seasons.
More likely to be fired than headhunted
More likely to leave with a losing record.
Tenure expectancy <5yrs
1:4 of stepping stone to better NCAA job.
1:4 of coaching abroad or with expansion league.
1:4 of not coaching again.
1:8 of demotion to NCAA assistant. 1:8 of an NFL gig.
3:8 of a winning record.
Because otherwise the question is pointless, IMO.We've now had two of the "5" votes post that they got there by grading on the curve.
I would say hires invoke excitement when you’ve fired your coach, not necessarily when your coach quit. Who was excited about Neuheisal? Barnett? There were a lot of questions about those hires at the time.Hires invoke excitement.
I'm seeing strong negative emotions on this one.
I'm seeing most people in the mid-range (+/- 2 from a "5"), with that skewing toward frustration instead of hope.
Fixed.Yeah, if this hire costs us Chev then any hire other than Chev would have cost us Chev.
I remember the feeling I had when they hired rick, not a good feeling. This hire has left me with total apathy at this point, now after he lays out his plan I hope I'm a 10 because I like being excited for the Buffs. Hope is GOODI would say hires invoke excitement when you’ve fired your coach, not necessarily when your coach quit. Who was excited about Neuheisal? Barnett? There were a lot of questions about those hires at the time.
69Just curious, but how many new threads do we need about the same topic?
42Just curious, but how many new threads do we need about the same topic?
Someone should start the thread assessing what type of fruit KD could best punt and throw.Just curious, but how many new threads do we need about the same topic?
Someone should start the thread assessing what type of fruit KD could best punt and throw.