5-7Just curious, but how many new threads do we need about the same topic?
5-7Just curious, but how many new threads do we need about the same topic?
He can wow the kids with hisBased on the assumption he's very mature, steady and good with players (ie, retaining the class), I'm feeling good.
I think it's a false choice that Howell put forward.Howell: CU Buffs got substance over style with Karl Dorrell
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This article was already posted on another thread but I think it's a good read. Without that article, I'd have ranked the hire as a 4 or 5. I would now put this at 6 or 7.
Nitpicking just a little, but Fairbanks quit. He wasn’t fired. He probably should have been fired, but he wasn’t.Gotta be some formula to measure the spectrum between a desirable football program or some kind of coaching graveyard.
HC / tenure / Record/Exit / Next Job
Fairbanks/3yr/ 7-36 /Fired /USFL HC
McCartney /13yr/93-55-5/Quit/left football
Neuheisel/ 4yr/33-14/Hired Away/ HC UDub
Barnett/ 7yr/49-38/Fired/left football
Hawkins/5yr/19-39/Fired/CFL HC
Embree/2yr/4-21/Fired/NFL assistant
MacIntyre/5yr/30-44/Fired/Ol’Miss DC
Tucker/1yr/5-7/hired away/HC MSU
8 coaches - 5 fired.
5 did not immediately return to NCAA.
1 to NFL.
1 to Canadian League.
1 to USFL
2 hired away as HC for more $.
2 retired permanently from football
trends: shorter tenures, fewer winning seasons.
More likely to be fired than headhunted
More likely to leave with a losing record.
Tenure expectancy <5yrs
1:4 of stepping stone to better NCAA job.
1:4 of coaching abroad or with expansion league.
1:4 of not coaching again.
1:8 of demotion to NCAA assistant. 1:8 of an NFL gig.
3:8 of a winning record.
Same. He can easily get up to an 7 or even an 8 depending on how the class holds together and the staff he brings in.I give it a 6. I was at 5, press conference bumps it up 1. I am excited for the long term trajectory of the program, not excited about how long it will take to get there
Ba-dum tissnot from Missouri.....but "show me" is where i am at.
Come on. A “1” would be the score you’d give if they had hired a high school coach or worse. A “1” is ridiculous. All of you who gave this hire a “1” or “2” are just pissed off and taking it out on HCKD and RG. “1” or “2” isn’t even logical.I give it a 1 because it just isn’t “exciting” at all. At the same time, I’m ready to support Hot Karl and believe he has a chance to be successful here.
Come on. A “1” would be the score you’d give if they had hired a high school coach or worse. A “1” is ridiculous. All of you who gave this hire a “1” or “2” are just pissed off and taking it out on HCKD and RG. “1” or “2” isn’t even logical.
3 10s now, but those are buffsurveyor, buffs14, and flounder, so lol.It's a democracy, they voted now deal with it BOT!
You going to address those who gave it a 7 or higher? Two people gave it a 10.
I gave the KD hire a 10. But I'm biased.