Antonio and Arias are graded lower and one is in the NFL.
This year's talent with Antonio, Weaver, Hunter and Horn is much better than MLC and injured Tyson. Time for people to move on from the past.
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Is the massive turnover we're seeing ok? Or why Reddit CFB fans are clueless
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This year's talent with Antonio, Weaver, Hunter and Horn is much better than MLC and injured Tyson. Time for people to move on from the past.
I know that Weaver was WR #1 at USF. I guess we'll have to see how it goes, and I'm hoping for the best. Credit to Coach Prime for putting together an offense on the fly with very little time. All these G5 guys from underperforming programs in Meh conferences (AAC, MAC) sprinkled through the 2-deep on offense give a guy pause but Prime didn't have a ton of time to do this. Great credit to him and the staff. He's been the hardest working guy in college ball since last December. But I put a lot of stock in level of competition. I'm sure you saw it when you were coaching high school, right?
We also need to see the FCS transfers play this year in P5. I have some confidence but the proof is always in the pudding. (Who the hell came up with that saying anyway?)
This isn't some disgruntled cynicism from an old boomer. There's a reason the betting lines haven't moved off of TCU -21 or -20.5, and the CU win total can't get off of 3.5. A team is mostly its personnel and it's the personnel that being analyzed. I personally might think those betting numbers are a little too pessimistic but the professionals that make their livings with this stuff aren't wrong consistently or they wouldn't last long.
BTW, I'll be the happiest guy here if CU beats TCU 42-21 and goes on to an 8 win season. Go Buffs!
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In line with how I graded the roster prior to summer camp. 5th or 6th and right there with Utah.
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People who know Horn have said he's gone after this season if he has at least a decent year. His speed and quickness are elite, NFL level.
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And the guy at 842 just made an NFL 53 man roster.
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BTW, if I'm remember correctly, USF had a QB that couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat, similar to what we had.
Speed and quickness do get drafted. Everyone wants to find the next Tyreek.
That would make more sense.
I’ve been following the Buffs since 1967. I’ve learned over time never to believe anything until it happens and I see it.
There's some wisdom in that. I never would have believed that Espinoza Island was going to become a thing until I saw it.
I would never have believed CU would hire a Boise State coach without reading his resume and understanding what his actual job duties had been. That’s the event that made me realize what an amateur cluster**** the CUAD and entire admin actually was.
See you guys later. I’m checkin out until after the TCU game. Go Buffs!
I have trouble blaming Bohn when I look at every other football HC hire he has made. I think the problem which had been insurmountable since 2002/ 2003 was the leadership the Athletic Director works for and the resources & support provided.
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The biggest issue with this statement is it ignores what all CU coaches have stated with the players and improvements made by the S&C coaches and position coaches as well as them getting a legit QB like 2.
Based on what we have heard from the coaches. The most NFL ready players have came from the G5 or FCS for us.
Cokes
Sanders 2x
Hunter
USF WRs
Antonio
CSC
Manns
Washington
McCaskill
Wilkerson
Most of our P5 transfers are guys who were highly wanted but most of them are rotational. They are not expected to be our studs.
We have some of the holdovers like Woods, Tank, and Wells who have stud potential. And Brew likes the TEs who are mostly holdovers. Ham and Hank are gonna start who are also holdovers.
TCU of all teams know that G5 transfers can be special with the success they had with the G5 transfers last year.
Horn had offers to UGA and Tenn as a HS WR and had offers to A&M, Penn State and Houston as a transfer. We beat out P5 teams for Weaver who OU wanted badly. Antonio had BC, BYU, and several other PAC schools hot on his trail. These guys are legit and all three are said to have a breakthrough offseason with us.
Maybe you are right to a degree, we do need to see it. But best believe, the coaches aren't lying to you. The players aren't lying to you. The clips aren't lying to you.
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2 projected starters, Cokes and Harrison, are not ranked in our composite.
2023 College Football Team Talent Composite
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Harrison, I understand, but Cokes getting rated moves us up a few notches, IMO.
Also, NU checks in at #21, which surprises me given the attrition they’ve had there the last few years.
That means 6 of our opponents are ranked as more talented than CU. We miss UDub, but have TCU and NU in the non-conference schedule.
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I’m actually a little shocked at most of 21-31.Full thing is here for those who want to see it:
2023 College Football Team Talent Composite
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#35 right in between SMU and Georgia Tech. Some other interesting tidbits:
If CU went 3-0 in non-con, 4-5 in P12 play, and won a bowl game, I'd consider that a very successful season.
- Among teams that will be in the B12 next year, Colorado is 3rd out of 16, behind TCU (19) and Utah (33). The next closest is TT at 40.
- Non con schedule is
- TCU (19)
- nubs (21)
- CSU (scrolling....scrolling....scrollling: 107, 8 spots below *Rice*)
- UConn, who Lugenbill said was CU's competition for "worse" [sic] roster in college football is 92.
- Kent State, whom Sean Lewis guided to a 5-7 record last year, is 117, 10 spots below CSU and 3 spots above Jackson State (120)
- Last year's team was 63rd, which was lower than any team they played was ranked (Air Force is not ranked at all; I'm not sure why)
- The team ranked 33rd last year was Maryland, who went 8-5 (4-5 in conference) and won the Duke's Mayo Bowl over NCSU
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Arkansas the worst non Vandy school at 31. Just shows you how elite the SEC is. Honestly, Arkansas hit the portal hard. Some of the studs they got have no recruiting value. Same for FSU which got five starters with no stars and one is Jared Verse who's projected to be a top 10 pick. Transfer rating should matter more.2 project starters, Cokes and Harrison, are not ranked in our composite.
2023 College Football Team Talent Composite
In order to create the most comprehensive Team Recruiting Ranking without any notion of bias, 247Sports Team Recruiting Ranking is solely based on the 247Sports Composite Rating.
Harrison, I understand, but Cokes getting rated moves us up a few notches, IMO.
Also, NU checks in at #21, which surprises me given the attrition they’ve had there the last few years.
That means 6 of our opponents are ranked as more talented than CU. We miss UDub, but have TCU and NU in the non-conference schedule.
This. It amazes me how many services and "experts" push out a player's HS star rating when they're talking about them now as a transfer. Bruv, that was 3 years and 2 CFB seasons ago.
Reddit can suck our dick too
I don't do Reddit, but what I've seen and heard from people who do makes it sound like a cesspit of uninformed Prime/CU hate.
Reddit CFB has become an absolute cesspool of hate towards Prime. And I love it.
Those people are so clueless as to what an outspoken and genius black coach can do. Everytime they complain they expose their ignorance. They don't have a clue that Prime is the opposite of selfish as a coach. They think this media hype and brand is about Deion, when it is really about the exposure for the kids and resurrection of a football program.
I've become a big fan of Josh Pate and his takes. They are very even and he clearly understands what Deion Sanders is doing:
Those people are so clueless as to what an outspoken and genius black coach can do. Everytime they complain they expose their ignorance. They don't have a clue that Prime is the opposite of selfish as a coach. They think this media hype and brand is about Deion, when it is really about the exposure for the kids and resurrection of a football program.
I've become a big fan of Josh Pate and his takes. They are very even and he clearly understands what Deion Sanders is doing:
They keep spewing **** like the players that were cut were done dirty, they shouldn’t have been replaced, just because they were bad is no reason to get rid of them…winning isnt the most important thing.
Ok FSU, Clemson, Bama, Ohio State, USC, LSU, Nebraska fans - eat a dick.
Still holding strong to this argument? MLC has 7 catches for 98 yards through 3 games (two of which were UTEP and NAU). Weaver averages more then that per game.
I wish!