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Is the massive turnover we're seeing ok? Or why Reddit CFB fans are clueless
- Thread starter dio
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I'm not sure what that is, or what it means, but it feels vaguely encouraging.
Neither crack the top 4-5 WRs here…
Well you can't really get rid of walk-ons. They are paying their own way and only count against the 105 before classes start limit. Plus most walk-ons are there to prove they belong and/or because they love the game. They tend to be some of the hardest workers. The ones that don't leave on their own. You need the Offerdahl's and Rudy's of the world on your team.
It was definitely just as much about talent as culture. There might be 4-5 guys who left that are going to get meaningful P5 snaps going forward.
Full thing is here for those who want to see it:
2023 College Football Team Talent Composite
In order to create the most comprehensive Team Recruiting Ranking without any notion of bias, 247Sports Team Recruiting Ranking is solely based on the 247Sports Composite Rating.
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#35 right in between SMU and Georgia Tech. Some other interesting tidbits:
- Among teams that will be in the B12 next year, Colorado is 3rd out of 16, behind TCU (19) and Utah (33). The next closest is TT at 40.
- Non con schedule is
- TCU (19)
- nubs (21)
- CSU (scrolling....scrolling....scrollling: 107, 8 spots below *Rice*)
- UConn, who Lugenbill said was CU's competition for "worse" [sic] roster in college football is 92.
- Kent State, whom Sean Lewis guided to a 5-7 record last year, is 117, 10 spots below CSU and 3 spots above Jackson State (120)
- Last year's team was 63rd, which was lower than any team they played was ranked (Air Force is not ranked at all; I'm not sure why)
- The team ranked 33rd last year was Maryland, who went 8-5 (4-5 in conference) and won the Duke's Mayo Bowl over NCSU
good post. My initial thought is that this rating is skewed by transfers, and could be skewed either way. But it's a great measuring stick. Also, haha, ATM.Full thing is here for those who want to see it:
2023 College Football Team Talent Composite
In order to create the most comprehensive Team Recruiting Ranking without any notion of bias, 247Sports Team Recruiting Ranking is solely based on the 247Sports Composite Rating.
#35 right in between SMU and Georgia Tech. Some other interesting tidbits:
If CU went 3-0 in non-con, 4-5 in P12 play, and won a bowl game, I'd consider that a very successful season.
- Among teams that will be in the B12 next year, Colorado is 3rd out of 16, behind TCU (19) and Utah (33). The next closest is TT at 40.
- Non con schedule is
- TCU (19)
- nubs (21)
- CSU (scrolling....scrolling....scrollling: 107, 8 spots below *Rice*)
- UConn, who Lugenbill said was CU's competition for "worse" [sic] roster in college football is 92.
- Kent State, whom Sean Lewis guided to a 5-7 record last year, is 117, 10 spots below CSU and 3 spots above Jackson State (120)
- Last year's team was 63rd, which was lower than any team they played was ranked (Air Force is not ranked at all; I'm not sure why)
- The team ranked 33rd last year was Maryland, who went 8-5 (4-5 in conference) and won the Duke's Mayo Bowl over NCSU
We got a QB. We got talent. Lets gooo.
(that Nebraska rating is surprising)
additional notes: knu must include Gilbert (will be gone), and CU (at 72 scholarship players) is well below the avg of teams in the top 50, and only a handful of teams come close
SeanMSan
Well-Known Member
Like most things rated for Nebraska, that rating is inflated.
I do not mean get rid of our current walk-ons, my point is that you would do better with an entirely new complete group because even a walk-on can have feelings, actions, comments, or otherwise about the old regime. It is not at all what I would want to do, however, I was just hypothesizing about the ultimate reset.
Not sure you’re right. MLC is starting for Arizona. Horn is hyped here because of his speed but he didn’t catch a lot of passes last year. Understandable, as he and Weaver both played on a 1-11 South Florida team.
If you recall, Shadeur was highly upset when MLC left and tried to get him to come back.
Jus’ sayin…..
(I agree on Tyson)
Weaver - 53/718/6
Horn - 37/551/3
MLC - 23/359/3
Tyson - 22/470/4
What were you just sayin??
All 4 played on ****ty teams and Horn is a possibly a bit over-hyped here. At least right now. I’ll eat crow at seasons end if I’m wrong.
37 catches and 3 TDs isn’t jumping out at me, but again he played on a terrible team so I cut him some slack.
But your comments are about pumping up MLC who was worse on a similarly bad team. Jimmy Horn is also a slot type receiver while MLC profiles as an outside, prototypical WR1. He’s an OK player, but he wasn’t beating out Hunter, Weaver, or Antonio, and probably not Miller.
jaybird
Well-Known Member
I think we would have been happy to keep mlc as a depth piece, but he probably saw his chances of getting lots of snaps diminishing when we saw the competition.
But I wouldn't call him someone that would have a large impact here with our current wr room. We have red shirts that if needed could come off the bench and make just as big of an impact as he could. His 'hype' peaked from all the eyes on our spring game....
But I wouldn't call him someone that would have a large impact here with our current wr room. We have red shirts that if needed could come off the bench and make just as big of an impact as he could. His 'hype' peaked from all the eyes on our spring game....
MLC is getting overrated here b/c of how ****ing awful everything else was
they would be the 4-5th best options at WR for Colorado this season.
Everyone keeps saying this, but MLC would contribute on this team and I wish he had stayed. Tyson likely doesn't play this season but is very talented and would play in 2024.
I think you don’t understand how much the WR position has upgraded. They would contrbute on a team that often has 3-5 wide formations. That doesn’t negate that they wouldn’t be starters or primary receiving options.
Yes, I understand how much the WR position is upgraded. And MLC would still play here. He's damn good.
He’s okay. He’s WR 4-5 on this team. That’s why he left.
I guess we will have to see how Weaver shakes out. He’ll certainly have a better QB throwing to him than he did at 1-11 G5 South Florida.
Big Jim
WTF?
Nobody on the CU 2022 team was damn good. That player didn't exist.
Maybe Tyson on offense. Woods on d?
Tyson was asked to stay as WR 4-5. He was a highlight on the worst FBS team. He was not a starter at Colorado. Woods is an effort guy and a big hitter. Those are big assets for these coaches. He’s mentally tougher than MLC.
Your skepticism of the USF WRs is strange. You flippantly point to stats to prove a point even when the stats actually disprove your point. Weaver put up numbers at USF that rivaled Jordan Addison at USC last year and would have been WR2 (production wise). Horn is a proven explosive playmaker that was not the primary receiving option at USF (Weaver)
PAHI on Saturday after Colorado scores a bunch of points… “man, Weaver and Horn are really good! Did you guys know that?”
Yep. Neither was as good as Brendan Rice and even he got pushed back when he joined that USC group where there are always at least 3 guys who will be playing on Sundays within 2 years. CU is close to that level of talent and might actually be there if Travis projects at WR instead of CB.
Hunter was CB1 *and* WR1 in the C/O 2022.