I think you can still be the first.
When has the program stated that those first three were their targets? I think we have confirmed that Durkin and Gibbs interviewed, but have no idea how well they interviewed.
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New DC Poll-Top 4 candidates
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When has the program stated that those first three were their targets? I think we have confirmed that Durkin and Gibbs interviewed, but have no idea how well they interviewed.
AllStarBuffs
Member
i'm bummed we didn't get Kalani Sitake
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
This staff desperately needs two stud recruiters. We've seen that these guys can get the most out of kids they bring in (Look at Addison Gillam). Lets look at who they're bringing in, though:
N.J. Falo (Klayton Adams recruited him according to Rivals)-CU was his only P5 offer. Other offers came from Northern Colorado, Eastern Washington, Cal Poly, and San Jose State.
Frank Umu (Neinas is listed as his recruiter)-One other FBS offer-CSU. Other offers came from Eastern Washington and Weber State.
Boogie Sewell (Baer)-Other offers were Army, Buffalo, Montana, Southern Utah, and Weber State.
Jay Hockaday (Adams)-Other offers from Furman and Navy.
Brett Tonz (Bernardi)-Other offers came from Air Force, San Diego, and UC Davis.
Am I the only one who wonders what's going on up there when I see this type of stuff?
N.J. Falo (Klayton Adams recruited him according to Rivals)-CU was his only P5 offer. Other offers came from Northern Colorado, Eastern Washington, Cal Poly, and San Jose State.
Frank Umu (Neinas is listed as his recruiter)-One other FBS offer-CSU. Other offers came from Eastern Washington and Weber State.
Boogie Sewell (Baer)-Other offers were Army, Buffalo, Montana, Southern Utah, and Weber State.
Jay Hockaday (Adams)-Other offers from Furman and Navy.
Brett Tonz (Bernardi)-Other offers came from Air Force, San Diego, and UC Davis.
Am I the only one who wonders what's going on up there when I see this type of stuff?
DavisBuff
Club Member
I don't see why people think Hobby is our 3rd of 4th choice. Macintyre coached with him at Duke and Mississippi St. macintyre's mentor Cutcliffe raves about Hobby. He has been co defensive coord at duke and Clemson and is a great recruiter. He may have been the dynamic , young DC macintyre has been looking for. Hobby might be the perfect fit.
I like Gibbs; but, if he doesn't come here my guess is that Mac decided to go in a different direction as opposed to the other way around.
I like Gibbs; but, if he doesn't come here my guess is that Mac decided to go in a different direction as opposed to the other way around.
MCskid
Well-Known Member
Nope.
SerenityBuff
Well-Known Member
I agree. He has DC experience in a P5 conference and is the Co-DC on the best defense in the country. Not sure where the animosity is coming from. If we can get him and Reed to coach DBs, we'd be lucky to have them. Solid, young coaches and great recruiters. Isn't that what we wanted all along?
SerenityBuff
Well-Known Member
And conversely, some will hate whoever is hired just based on who did the hiring. A battered fan base, indeed.
Not really. Most (err all) of the "cynics" would be happy with either Durkin/Pendergast/ or Gibbs
SerenityBuff
Well-Known Member
Yeah, really. I've been around the cynics of this program long enough to know that they'd find countless things to complain about no matter who is hired. He's paid too much. He didn't bring the right assistants with him. That AAC defense will never work in the Pac-12. He can't recruit northwestern Louisiana like the "big boys." It never ends.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Disagree-We need a stud recruiter just as much as anything, because these guys (with the exception of Troy Walters) are not that.
I honestly do not care who they hire out of the guys mentioned in the thread thus far. If it someone completely out of the blue, I will be more concerned.
somebody
Well-Known Member
ABs needs to keep this phrase alive. It's plug and chug, e.g., Sefo decided to throw the ball in a different direction as opposed to the other way around, bb2's argument takes you in a different direction as opposed to the other way around, tini's mom works it in a different direction as opposed to the other way around. It's spectacular.
Question: would anyone have an issue with CU hiring Hobby if he was on the "hot board" from the beginning? The resume looks decent, except for his lack of experience in our recruiting footprint. He has a background coaching DLs, which this team could use an upgrade with. Obviously he is in MikeMac's coaching tree, so you'd have to assume their coaching styles & philosophy are aligned.
It feels like some are taking the position that "since he wasn't on the originally published list, we are moving on to Plan C, or D, and therefore it is a bad hire". That may be true. But it may be wrong too. It might be that the "hot board" was (mostly) wrong the entire time, and Hobby (or some other coach who has yet to be mentioned) has been Macintyre's primary target from the beginning. It could also mean that we are moving on to Plan L, M, or N. But stating either position as fact, seems speculative.
BTW - I don't know anything about potential Defensive Coordinators, or who would (or might) do a good job here. I'll judge based on how the group performs in 2015.
It feels like some are taking the position that "since he wasn't on the originally published list, we are moving on to Plan C, or D, and therefore it is a bad hire". That may be true. But it may be wrong too. It might be that the "hot board" was (mostly) wrong the entire time, and Hobby (or some other coach who has yet to be mentioned) has been Macintyre's primary target from the beginning. It could also mean that we are moving on to Plan L, M, or N. But stating either position as fact, seems speculative.
BTW - I don't know anything about potential Defensive Coordinators, or who would (or might) do a good job here. I'll judge based on how the group performs in 2015.
boydbuff
Club Member
If we were striking out on all our top choices you have reason to be concerned. Problem is we don't know if that is in fact the case. Hopefully the choice is made public ASAP and we will somehow learn how high on our target list were they (the latter part may not be easy to ascertain I suspect).
Why is anyone surprised that people are unhappy with having to lower their expectations?? We got bargain basement coaching hires previously and most of us were excited by a major talent upgrade. And to get a guy like Gibbs, Pendergast, or Durkin would be landing a guy sought after by other schools wanting a DC. They are each a hot commodity now as their names are attached to other jobs.
Rick George gave us new facilities upgrades and has set the bar much higher for CU Athletics. If we aren't getting our top 4, it's disappointing, but maybe Hobby will be a great DC.
The more I read, the more I like him. But still hoping for Durkin or Gibbs.
Rick George gave us new facilities upgrades and has set the bar much higher for CU Athletics. If we aren't getting our top 4, it's disappointing, but maybe Hobby will be a great DC.
The more I read, the more I like him. But still hoping for Durkin or Gibbs.
FlatironsBuff
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I have to say I really liked how Gibbs handled the bowl game for Houston. Bad side is he admitted that they could not stop the other team and had to keep doing onside kicks to win the game. Spectacular comeback, but not sure it was a great statement for his defense. Great strategy though.
If he doesn't like to recruit, and is difficult to get along with (as his Dad always was with the Broncos) then I can see why MM would look at Hobby. Hobby might be backup to Durkin, and Durkin may be straight up with MM that if Harbaugh wants him, he goes there, and CU if Harbaugh goes a different direction. I can wait a couple more days for that chance. And think Hobby is a good choice too, if he is a co-DC, if close to MM and share the same coaching philosophy (concern with D.Gibbs).
Right now I would say that my choices are Durkin No. , and then not sure about Gibbs or Hobby as to which is number 2. Experience, I would say Gibbs. Smoothness of fluidity with the coaching staff, Hobby. Recruiting chops, think it sounds like Hobby likes it better and is a better recruiter, but his footprint is not in our area. Gibbs doesn't like it as much, but has the Texas connections. Not sure that is a plus if he doesn't bond well with recruits.
No idea who would have better connections to change a few AC's on the D to fit what he wants to do.
If he doesn't like to recruit, and is difficult to get along with (as his Dad always was with the Broncos) then I can see why MM would look at Hobby. Hobby might be backup to Durkin, and Durkin may be straight up with MM that if Harbaugh wants him, he goes there, and CU if Harbaugh goes a different direction. I can wait a couple more days for that chance. And think Hobby is a good choice too, if he is a co-DC, if close to MM and share the same coaching philosophy (concern with D.Gibbs).
Right now I would say that my choices are Durkin No. , and then not sure about Gibbs or Hobby as to which is number 2. Experience, I would say Gibbs. Smoothness of fluidity with the coaching staff, Hobby. Recruiting chops, think it sounds like Hobby likes it better and is a better recruiter, but his footprint is not in our area. Gibbs doesn't like it as much, but has the Texas connections. Not sure that is a plus if he doesn't bond well with recruits.
No idea who would have better connections to change a few AC's on the D to fit what he wants to do.
Next? You are the first and only J.D. Slainger here or anywhere else!
What this board knows is based upon a few wild guesses from paysites that do little more than providejuicy rumors. Those so-called Top Four candidates are their wish lists, confirmed by repetition here, not from any personal knowledge of what's going on in HCMM's head.
HCMM has his own criteria and seems bent on building a staff around a certain philosophy that involves "character" something not too many posters here with a "win-at-any-cost" viewpoint want to recognize. D Gibbs and Pendergast seem a bit short in that area, while the others are in situations where confidentiality seems paramount. Hobby seems like a good combo of skills needed and a character guy. I'm willing to let it play out and not condemn somebody for a resume I'm not "FAMILIAR with.
As noted before the best guys all had to start somewhere with questions on their body of work. LSU took a huge flyer on some guy with a 6-5 record at MSU----how'd that work out for them? And for Bama? Meanwhile sterling resume guy, Gerry DiNardo, is now a TV analyst! And fellow sterling resume guy, Gary Barnett is the same.
which is the reason said panties are all wadded up. This kind of money from a major university in one of the best conferences in the country and we are in the complete dark? We are the paying customers and deserve some info.
boydbuff
Club Member
I have to believe Durkin knows by now if Harbaugh is hiring him or not. Of course even if he is not, he easily could stay in the SEC w/ aTm which apparently has Durkin as their top choice. From the latest read, it sounds like money is still on Durkin going to UM.
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/c...15/01/03/dj-durkin-florida-michigan/21220747/
Given there is no news on Pendergast for us but he is reportedly the top choice for LSU, I think D Gibbs must be the guy we are after most. It is possible we have a deal lined up but perhaps what Gibbs said in the post game yesterday is true that he is going to take a few days to think about it. From what we know he is likely the top choice for TTU, CU and UH.
Can't imagine why he would stay at UH with 2 B5 programs and although TTU offers probably an easier transition on the family (staying in TX), CU is his alma mater. I can't imagine that not weighing heavily in our favor. Also our D sucked last year and he seems to fancy himself as a turnaround specialist so it is a good opportunity for him to a.) go back "home", b.) turn around a bad defense in a top program, and c. get a big pay raise.
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/c...15/01/03/dj-durkin-florida-michigan/21220747/
Given there is no news on Pendergast for us but he is reportedly the top choice for LSU, I think D Gibbs must be the guy we are after most. It is possible we have a deal lined up but perhaps what Gibbs said in the post game yesterday is true that he is going to take a few days to think about it. From what we know he is likely the top choice for TTU, CU and UH.
Can't imagine why he would stay at UH with 2 B5 programs and although TTU offers probably an easier transition on the family (staying in TX), CU is his alma mater. I can't imagine that not weighing heavily in our favor. Also our D sucked last year and he seems to fancy himself as a turnaround specialist so it is a good opportunity for him to a.) go back "home", b.) turn around a bad defense in a top program, and c. get a big pay raise.
Lubbock =\= Houston. 500 miles apart geographically and worlds apart culturally. I would argue Boulder is more similar to Houston than Lubbock is.
BlackNGold
Club Member
May as well post this:
Possible new DC candidate who MacIntyre has coached with before?
Marion Hobby, Co-DC & DE Coach, Clemson
Marion Hobby Sport(s) Football Current position Title Co-Defensive Coordinator/Defensive Ends Coach Team Clemson Conference ACC Biographical details Born November 7, 1966 (age 48)
Irondale, AlabamaPlaying career 1986–1989
1990–1992Tennessee Volunteers
New England PatriotsPosition(s) Defensive End Coaching career (HC unless noted) 1995
1996–1997
1998
1999–2004
2005
2006–2007
2008–2010
2011–PresentTennessee–Martin (S&C)
Louisiana–Lafayette (DT/S&C)
Tennessee (Asst. S&C)
Ole Miss (DL)
Clemson (DE)
New Orleans Saints (DE)
Duke (DC/DL)
Clemson (Co-DC/DE)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Hobby
• Named one of the top-10 recruiters in the ACC in 2013 by Rivals.com.
• Clemson has finished in the top 25 all four years he has been an assistant coach.
• In 2008, Duke’s defense held opponents to 23.4 points per game, best in 20 years, and held three opponents to less than 10 points, a first for the program since 1976.
• Has NFL experience, as he was an assistant coach with the Saints in 2006 and 2007. The 2006 Saints had a 10-6 record and won the NFC South. He coached Will Smith, who had 10.5 sacks and started in the Pro Bowl.
• Prior to coming to Clemson, he worked for David Cutcliffe at Mississippi for six seasons (1999-04). During that time, the Rebels had a 44-29 record and four bowl wins.
http://www.clemsontigers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=28500&ATCLID=205529432
What is the source of this? Is this speculation?
SD Buff
Club Member
Apparently its Flounder's one sentence post a few pages ago. Sure did take a life of its own.
boyd -- Aggy hired Chavis. LSU is looking, reports are the favorite is Pendergast.
The Ogre
Well-Known Member
This kind of money? You mean the $1M unsourced rumor that an ABer heard about and many took as gospel? Speculation is one thing - fun even, accepting rumor as fact is (you fill in the blank, I don't care to offend so many).
boydbuff
Club Member
Totally forgot about that. That certainly adds some intrigue to the UM decision which I still believe has probably already been made. I guess if by end of day today or tomorrow there is no leak about Durkin to UM, I might get my hopes up that he is still on the table.
Still think D Gibbs is going to be our next DC though.
BlackNGold
Club Member
Seems that way Venables makes $875K and is getting a raise - Hobby makes $400K.
Flounder said Reed (actually he said Redd) now that has morphed into Hobby. I think it is going to be Dave Logan and Matt McHesney.
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