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Official 2017 Coaching Carousel Thread - Zona hires Sumlin

TSchekler said:
I’ve got some oceanfront property in Arvada to sell you, Mtn.
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Will Standley Lake qualify?

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Vol fans should be commended for what they did.

And Mullen to Florida...good hire...love that QB power play they do well. Will Miss State QB leave for the NFL?
 
Can you tell me the particulars, jalapeño, of the link between Schiano and Sandusky?

What Tenn fans have done is horrible.
 
I have no doubt that some of it is because a portion of the fan base expected a "bigger" hire.

There is also no question that for a certain number of people in the state and the fan base this hit a nerve and provoked a response. If it was strictly football related the AD would overcome it.

That it is an issue sufficient to hold up the hire means that the moral reaction is strong enough.
 
MtnBuff said:
I have no doubt that some of it is because a portion of the fan base expected a "bigger" hire.

There is also no question that for a certain number of people in the state and the fan base this hit a nerve and provoked a response. If it was strictly football related the AD would overcome it.

That it is an issue sufficient to hold up the hire means that the moral reaction is strong enough.
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Ok, Mtn.
 
hawg1 said:
Can you tell me the particulars, jalapeño, of the link between Schiano and Sandusky?

What Tenn fans have done is horrible.
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Mike McQuerey testified that Schiano had witnessed Sandusky abusing a child in the shower. Schiano has denied knowing anything about the abuse.
 
cmgoods said:
He was on the staff and was allegedly told about what was happening.
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McQueary claimed Schiano witnessed it happening once.

“I can't remember if it was one night or one morning — but that Greg had come into his office white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower. And that's it. That's all he ever told me."
 
SINKRATZ said:
Mike McQuerey testified that Schiano had witnessed Sandusky abusing a child in the shower. Schiano has denied knowing anything about the abuse.
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He actually testified Bradley told him another coach had witnessed Sandusky assaulting a kid in the showers and inferred it was Schiano. Complete hearsay.
 
Duff Man said:
He actually testified Bradley told him another coach had witnessed Sandusky assaulting a kid in the showers and inferred it was Schiano. Complete hearsay.
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Yeah I'm just going off a McQuerey quote on Wikipedia that named "Greg":
In his testimony, McQueary claimed "only that he had — I can’t remember if it was one night or one morning — but that Greg had come into his office white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower. And that’s it. That’s all he ever told me.”
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Maybe there's more to it in the omitted sections of that quote.
 
SINKRATZ said:
Mike McQuerey testified that Schiano had witnessed Sandusky abusing a child in the shower. Schiano has denied knowing anything about the abuse.
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Was it deposition or trial? Direct evidence or hearsay? What level, if hearsay? Was it prosecuted? What did DA do with it? How many lines devoted to topic in all evidence? Corroborated?

Despicable fan behavior.
 
hawg1 said:
Was it deposition or trial? Direct evidence or hearsay? What level, if hearsay? Was it prosecuted? What did DA do with it? How many lines devoted to topic in all evidence? Corroborated?

Despicable fan behavior.
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Don't know and don't frankly care. He's not on trial, he's up for a bit prestigious, high-paying job and I assume his potential employers asked him all about it, but fans are fans.
 
hawg1 said:
Was it deposition or trial? Direct evidence or hearsay? What level, if hearsay? Was it prosecuted? What did DA do with it? How many lines devoted to topic in all evidence? Corroborated?

Despicable fan behavior.
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It was hearsay in a deposition.
 
Sykobuff said:
I'm a buff fan, I could care less what happens at Tennessee. We have our own coaching problems.

If you want to be a social injustice warrior, be my guest...
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This is a carousel thread. Has nothing to do with Biffs, does it.
 
MtnBuff said:
I'm glad I don't have your completely cynical view of the world TSchek, Believe it or not there are actually people in the world who have some good in them.
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Lol and very few of them are operating in college football. There isn’t a dirtier entity than the NCAA or sport than college football. If you want to believe the fanbase outrage over Schiano is about the alleged PSU stuff, fine, It’s your prerogative. The reality is that they were expecting Jon Gruden, Chip Kelly, Bob Stoops, Scott Frost, or Bobby Petrino to be their next coach. There is no such thing as a moral compass from a college football fanbase.
 
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