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Official 2025 Opening Week - Georgia Tech Thread

Presser on this topic scared me. Clueless.
He’s had some poor game/clock management scenarios the past two years, but this is the first one that was so inexplicably bad and obvious and for him to bring that explanation to the presser was a really bad look. He usually starts answering questions he’s confident about before the reporter is done asking and gets a little defensive when pressed on stuff like that, but he waited for the full question and his answer was mostly a nonsensical, word salad. You could tell he was a deer in the headlights.
 
I disagree with this statement. I think they are as good as good as SMU. Better than Louisville. Not sure if they will be as good as Miami as Miami could end up being great long term this year.
I didn't see it, but Gary B supposedly said they have one of the best running games in the country
 
He’s had some poor game/clock management scenarios the past two years, but this is the first one that was so inexplicably bad and obvious and for him to bring that explanation to the presser was a really bad look. He usually starts answering questions he’s confident about before the reporter is done asking and gets a little defensive when pressed on stuff like that, but he waited for the full question and his answer was mostly a nonsensical, word salad. You could tell he was a deer in the headlights.
Should just say that he would review it and see what adjustments are needed, but the reporters are so weak and so scared to ask a solid question or give a follow up that focus's on the historical scenario

The timeouts were not just about controlling the clock time, because we did have incompletions and did get out of bounds after that stupid long winding run, rather the timeouts were about organization and rest for your key players needed to try a hail mary. We did not even have the needed WR's down the field on that throw, and doubt all those guys were well versed on it. Just use the timeouts to manage the operation as long as you know the clock sequencing so you are not completely left without one, but at 8 seconds, you know that it is likely the last play
 
His explanation was very worrisome. He was either trying to excuse his own ineptitude and not take accountability, or he was completely oblivious to what was happening on the field and with the clock. I’m not sure which one is worse…
Every player on the field could have called time out. It would have taken very big balls, but I wish Captain Seaton or Salter would have. If you can watch a full replay, CP looked totally lost then. The fact no assistants said anything is bad.

Also unlikely, but given his teammates and coaches consistent praise, I think Salter maybe was nervous and also just had a "bad day".
 
His explanation was very worrisome. He was either trying to excuse his own ineptitude and not take accountability, or he was completely oblivious to what was happening on the field and with the clock. I’m not sure which one is worse…
all the videos of him repeating "down and distance" to the players and he didn't know that or that the clock was running smh
 
I guess everyone is forgetting that Georgia Tech took Georgia to overtime last year at Georgia. They are a better team than most are giving them credit for.

Meh - they turned the ball over on their first 3 possessions and we got 7 points out of it. I expected the defensive performance, though I was annoyed at our inability to stop King at all. There was no reason to be trailing at halftime, however.
 
Meh - they turned the ball over on their first 3 possessions and we got 7 points out of it. I expected the defensive performance, though I was annoyed at our inability to stop King at all. There was no reason to be trailing at halftime, however.
Exactly. We left quite a few points out there.
 
Also, tired of quarterbacks running all over our ass. Can't remember who we were playing, thinking it was Toledo years back. That fupa ran all over us. Well, at least this guy was an athlete.
 
I’m starting to think it’s pointless for me to get angry at Pat Shurmur for being Pat Shurmur. He is what he is.

I’m guessing Pat’s philosophy is that turnover differential is the most important thing. Therefore, his job is to avoid turnovers.

In the passing game, Anything beyond the line of scrimmage and inside the hash marks is a big red DANGER zone. So he calls passes behind the LoS, along the sidelines, and over the top of the big red danger zones on long throws.

In the run game, he avoids end arounds, pitches or even misdirection counters that could possibly produce fumbles.

The problem is that it’s philosophy that tries not to lose the game but rarely tries to go and WIN the game. And it’s boring as hell to watch.
 
I’m starting to think it’s pointless for me to get angry at Pat Shurmur for being Pat Shurmur. He is what he is.

I’m guessing Pat’s philosophy is that turnover differential is the most important thing. Therefore, his job is to avoid turnovers.

In the passing game, Anything beyond the line of scrimmage and inside the hash marks is a big red DANGER zone. So he calls passes behind the LoS, along the sidelines, and over the top of the big red danger zones on long throws.

In the run game, he avoids end arounds, pitches or even misdirection counters that could possibly produce fumbles.

The problem is that it’s philosophy that tries not to lose the game but rarely tries to go and WIN the game. And it’s boring as hell to watch.
Just about every NFL OC will say that if they had the college rules where OLs could be blocking downfield as long as the pass is completed behind the LOS... that they'd call a screen almost every play.

It's a problem because when they get college OC jobs they have trouble wrapping their heads around how vastly less capable college offensive linemen are compared with what NFL OLs are able to do.
 
This is the correct take. This year is the bridge year, any expectations higher than that is just wishful thinking.

And CP better figure out how to rebuild this DL and LB. Need major talent upgrade there, and a new coach
The issue I have with this viewpoint is that there are no more bridge years.

NIL and the portal make every team a one year experiment. Juju could very easily transfer out after this year.

Play the kid and see what he’s got. Salter ain’t it.
 
The issue I have with this viewpoint is that there are no more bridge years.

NIL and the portal make every team a one year experiment. Juju could very easily transfer out after this year.

Play the kid and see what he’s got. Salter ain’t it.
If you put King into our offensive scheme last night you will say the same thing about him. King ain't it!

We didn't give Salter the best chance to use his capability, and we didn't force him to use his capability. Both are the failures from coaches.
 
The issue I have with this viewpoint is that there are no more bridge years.

NIL and the portal make every team a one year experiment. Juju could very easily transfer out after this year.

Play the kid and see what he’s got. Salter ain’t it.
And as I posted earlier the fans don't get a vote. The coaches have a pretty good idea of what guys have and don't have, they see them in practices, in scrimmages, in film. This idea that they owe it to the fans to run somebody out there to "see what they have" is ridiculous, and I could use stronger words but won't.

The coaches are responsible for their results, not to leave decisions up to the fans. That was a quality defense that GT put out there last night. Juju is a talent and the future of the CU program (and no he isn't going to transfer,) we will see him soon enough but it will be the right time for him and the team, not because the fans are in a panic.
 
And as I posted earlier the fans don't get a vote. The coaches have a pretty good idea of what guys have and don't have, they see them in practices, in scrimmages, in film. This idea that they owe it to the fans to run somebody out there to "see what they have" is ridiculous, and I could use stronger words but won't.

The coaches are responsible for their results, not to leave decisions up to the fans. That was a quality defense that GT put out there last night. Juju is a talent and the future of the CU program (and no he isn't going to transfer,) we will see him soon enough but it will be the right time for him and the team, not because the fans are in a panic.

Agreed we do not have a vote, we are full of shyt, and we just talk out loud

I was all in Team Salter because of what we heard about his skills and even watching his film, but with him in the Shurmur offense and with him wanting to use his last year as an NFL interview, we are not in alignment with what I think even Prime was thinking would happen

We have a loss, not unexpected, but a loss, and now we have a run of 3 winnable games, with two at home

I also think we did not entirely know that our OL would figure it out, but last night showed me it is a real P4 OL that can protect him and if we can run 5-6 yards per rush, then that maybe what we needed to see to consider Juju
 
The posts about running out of shotgun are odd to me. We needed to do it out of pistol last year to give our backs as much of a head start as possible. With a good OL, which we now have, you can run out of the gun just fine. Watch Malzahn’s offense, they do it fantastically well.
 
I know QB’s need to avoid contact as much as possible. But Salter had a couple of runs toward the sideline where he just gave up and stepped OB when he could’ve picked up 3 or 4 more yards. I hate that. Put your head down and fight for extra yards!
 
I know QB’s need to avoid contact as much as possible. But Salter had a couple of runs toward the sideline where he just gave up and stepped OB when he could’ve picked up 3 or 4 more yards. I hate that. Put your head down and fight for extra yards!
I think players, unless it's to fight for a first down, should protect themselves. Especially quarterbacks. But I get why other fans get frustrated when they see that in this violent sport we love.
 
I think players, unless it's to fight for a first down, should protect themselves. Especially quarterbacks. But I get why other fans get frustrated when they see that in this violent sport we love.
I think on one of those he could’ve gotten a first down but my memory sucks.
 
This is a great example of “wtf are you doing Robert Livingston”. Their passing game was a non factor, we’re getting blown up in the run game and we’re just trotting out two deep safeties.
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10 formation does call for that personnel group. But when the QB is a runner, you probably have to keep it as 4 DLs instead of 3 and cheat a safety up closer to the LBs. Otherwise, you're going 6 on 6 and the offense can outnumber you at the point of attack. I agree that this was a game where you had to trust your DBs to win 1-on1.
 
10 formation does call for that personnel group. But when the QB is a runner, you probably have to keep it as 4 DLs instead of 3 and cheat a safety up closer to the LBs. Otherwise, you're going 6 on 6 and the offense can outnumber you at the point of attack. I agree that this was a game where you had to trust your DBs to win 1-on1.
Personnel group is fine just have to bring the Safety down in the box as you said. You have to force a QB like King to beat you with his arm
 
I agree with others the OL is solid. Good to see. Pass rush is good on the DL. Run D and LB's on the D are simply awful.

Salter? He's a thrower, not a passer. Nobody is going to have the accuracy SS2 had, but the phrases "wing and a prayer", "sandlot" and "chuck it around" spring to mind. For a fifth year guy he has virtually no awareness of how to read the field in the pocket, just sling it. If he isn't going to run it, CU is hosed, because he isn't beating anybody with that arm. Poor accuracy, poor decisions.

So, I think you design 3-5 series with the ones for Lewis over the next two weeks and rotate JuJu and Salter to see what you have. Lewis is the future, but if Salter can't do any better than that, Lewis might have to be the present. Might as well see what he can do in live action now so you can bench Salter if you have to.
I really worry Prime will not play Juju till like game 9 unless we’re in a blowout.
 
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