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Official 2025 Opening Week - Georgia Tech Thread
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Medford M.
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Aaron Opelt. He had 169 yards rushing that year. 110 came against us…on 6 ****ing carries
You seem incapable of understanding my point. I don't think it's the first time that has happened.
CitizenKane
Well-Known Member
What’s anyone’s justification for thinking that a team with an average defense and no passing game is good?
their games last year
And, just so you know, FSU crushed Alabama last night with 150 passing yards.
Some teams are not built to pass to win.
CitizenKane
Well-Known Member
Ok you want to rule out ASU’s games last year despite them being in the playoff but want to consider Techs games from last year. On last year alone ASU beats Tech by thirty.
Wait until we get to 4th and 10
I can agree that ASU last year is probably better than GT.
They lost their heart and soul this year, unfortunately
And this, again, is your emotional assessment.
Go check out how GT played against top 20 team last year
It’s probably not fair, but KS had 2 opportunities to stake claim to “dawg” status.
1. Tied game. 5:04 to go. Ball on our 11. 5 minute drive to win the game with a TD or walk off FG, earns Dawg.
2. Down 7 with 1:05 to go. Ball on our 25. Miracle TD tying drive earns Dawg.
Related Lack of Dawg status: after completing a 10 yard pass, it would be great if he would either call TO or frantically tell Prime that we need a TO to avoid wasting most of the remaining clock. Also, realizing with 18 sec on the clock, that throwing for the end zone is not the right play. Get 15-20 yards and take 2 shots at the end zone.
241Volcanos
Well-Known Member
CU plays Kansas in the Big 12 title game.
Trogdor
Soy Boy
lol okay. But PFF grades! 320 yards rushing and the defense was fine. Mmkay.
The ACTUAL point is that there's plenty of blame to go around, on both sides of the ball.
I haven't referenced PFF grades or suggested the defense was fine, so I'm not sure where that's coming from. I routinely acknowledged that GT ran over the top of us. What I said is that the defense did enough.
You remind me of myself in high school, when I thought yards on offense and yards on defense were the most important thing. Points are a thing too. Turnovers are a thing.
The story of our loss was our inability to sustain drives. And our inability to sustain drives was about missed opportunities by our QB to scramble for an easy first down, or make an easy throw for a first down.
Again, you have demonstrated an inability, or an unwillingness to understand my point.
Tell me about your cow mousing capabilities!
I’m on the next stair north of that, so one section over. I never saw any sign of a disturbance. Damn!
Trogdor
Soy Boy
You said the defense did enough and that it was primarily on the QB play. It's not hard to grasp. There were too many issues, from coaching, to the defense, to the play calling, to the QB play, to pin it on one thing. That's the point. 320 rushing yards allowed is the defense "doing enough". That is bat****.
You're hyper focusing on one thing and then taking some intellectual superiority angle when in reality you're being obtuse. I understand perfectly what you're saying, it's just nonsense. Two of those turnovers were absolute gifts that CU had nothing to do with. Without those GT probably scores well into the 30s. The defense did enough to lose the game, just like the offense, just like the coaches. Thats_the_point.
KS sucked. The play calling sucked. The game management sucked. The defense sucked.
27 first downs.
463 yards
6-11 on 3rd down and 1-1 on 4th.
Game losing 45 yard TD run on a series GT didn't even attempt a pass. They capitulated.
Each side of the ball needed the other to be better to win the game, and they weren't.
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If you would have told me before the game that we would hold GT to under 30 points I would have been happy and expected a win.
I'm not taking the superiority angle. Your inability to articulate what I was saying (PFF etc...) indicated that you weren't getting my point.
Lots of things could have been better. It's my observation/belief that one of those things was disproportionately bad.
Offense was more concerning to me. Although, LB play overall was the worst thing on the field. Yeah, I’m using the word “thing” here. Hart has got to go. Prime, you did all you could, but he can’t coach football. Maybe he can motivate, maybe he’s a great human being. But his players don’t know what to do. We were getting somewhere with Helow, but the recruits aren’t going to come for Hart, so we’re a couple years out from decent players even if you get rid of Hart at the end of the year. Maybe he can become a guru at time management and at least tell you when to call timeouts?
And Livingston, you have to figure out running quarterbacks, man. You had Salter all offseason to work against. Sorry Shurmur doesn’t know how to use him, that’s not on you.
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according to the "PFF" game review, King gained 145 yards rushing before contact!! Shades of Baylor last year (and every other running QB). How can Livingston be so unable to address this issue? Play calling seemed to be done, without understanding Salter's skill sets.
most players have to be questioning their coaches abilities. and not 1 of them buys CP's explanation for not calling TO at the end.
They are young and hopefully crushing Delaware will get them some confidence.
most players have to be questioning their coaches abilities. and not 1 of them buys CP's explanation for not calling TO at the end.
They are young and hopefully crushing Delaware will get them some confidence.
They didn't get points off of turnovers, that got them beat. Not the only thing but a big part of it.
on D maybe Livingston should have brought a safety up and did more run blitzing. shoot the gaps until king showed he could throw deep. Bring that run support up, stop the run should have been top priority. Make them throw.
Points off the turnovers would have of course helped with that pressure.
Livingston has to figure out college football offenses and running QBs. Not the same as pro ball.
Points off the turnovers would have of course helped with that pressure.
Livingston has to figure out college football offenses and running QBs. Not the same as pro ball.
This
How often do we look at a championship team or even the teams that consistently beat ours and complain about them being "lucky."
Turns out that teams that have a lot of success tend to force a lot of turnovers and other bad plays and just as importantly turn those mistakes into points.
They did Run Blitz and they were in the wrong hole every time. There were a few times we put in a 5 man front, with actually DL and they threw the ball semi-effectively, but they did not run hardly ever when we went big. If our LB’s are small, then adding a small safety like Finneseth or Byard did not help at all.
I think a 5-2-4 front on 1st and 2nd with mostly man concepts and the safeties watching for the backs swinging out was our only chance to cut down the yards.
Bottom line though, getting gift turnovers is a great thing, you still have to recover the ball. Not turning it over is great. Not getting sacked is great. On the second drive Taylor and Drelon dropped passes that could have been caught, and then KS turned down a chance to run for probably for 20 yards and then when he threw to Sincere, had that pass been 5-yards less overthrown Sincere either catches it or gets DPI. Zero breaks on the second drive that could have set off a blowout because GT could not then run as much as they would like to and our 4-2-5 could match up better
Delaware's Qb can run it as well.
I'm sure they will try their best to do so until CU shows they can stop it.
BuffWarHogFrog
Just be rad
I would argue that if your team has the ball on the last possession, and you’re within one score…then yes, your defense did enough.
What sticks out to me after re-watching the game is what happened after the 2nd and 3rd turnovers. Had we just driven down and kicked FGs on each then it's 13-0, more time is off the clock, and GT is probably feeling a little bit of anxiety. Instead they get the ball back with over 5 minutes left in the first quarter only down by 7 after committing 3 TO's. The plays we run are
Pass - dump pass that was dropped, not the best throw but should have been caught
Pass - to D Miller at the sticks. Was a bit low and short, but Miller should have caught it
Pass - had an open field to run for the first pretty easily but threw the home run ball that landed incomplete
Pass - lateral pass, similar to final drive, TE misses block, and just like in the final drive we lose 3 yards (making me mad about why we called this play on the final drive when it hadn't worked all game, but that rant will come later). It looked like the D was lined up not believing that we would run
Unknown - mishandled snap so Salter runs for 9 yards. Best play of the two drives!
Pass - 2.5 yard dump pass and we don't go for it on 4th
Had we run 12 more offensive plays in these 2 drives, then GT would have been coming out at the very end of 1Q having run 12 total plays with 3 turnovers.
It would have been a completely different game.
Pass - dump pass that was dropped, not the best throw but should have been caught
Pass - to D Miller at the sticks. Was a bit low and short, but Miller should have caught it
Pass - had an open field to run for the first pretty easily but threw the home run ball that landed incomplete
Pass - lateral pass, similar to final drive, TE misses block, and just like in the final drive we lose 3 yards (making me mad about why we called this play on the final drive when it hadn't worked all game, but that rant will come later). It looked like the D was lined up not believing that we would run
Unknown - mishandled snap so Salter runs for 9 yards. Best play of the two drives!
Pass - 2.5 yard dump pass and we don't go for it on 4th
Had we run 12 more offensive plays in these 2 drives, then GT would have been coming out at the very end of 1Q having run 12 total plays with 3 turnovers.
It would have been a completely different game.
BlackNGold
Club Member
The amount of rationalization in this thread is nutz. "The Defense did enuff" - are you crazy. At halftime I expected GT to win based on the fact they had turned over the ball 3 times and were ahead 13-10. CU's defense was not stopping them, they were running the ball at will. The interception was a good defensive play - the fumbles were gifts. This has been a theme every since Prime has been here - we try to out athlete teams instead of out execute and we do not effectively run the ball.
GT may be a good team, but it is the type of team CU should beat at home. I think this team has a ways to go. We have middling QB play - I am not sure how high Salter's ceiling is if he tries to be a pocket passer - he has a career ~60% completion percentage which is poor in today's college football. This team needs to be effective in running the ball and with Salter at QB I thought they would have a better game plan for running.
This teams does not have the star power of last year so they have to execute better.
GT may be a good team, but it is the type of team CU should beat at home. I think this team has a ways to go. We have middling QB play - I am not sure how high Salter's ceiling is if he tries to be a pocket passer - he has a career ~60% completion percentage which is poor in today's college football. This team needs to be effective in running the ball and with Salter at QB I thought they would have a better game plan for running.
This teams does not have the star power of last year so they have to execute better.