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Not great, but it’s extremely rare and not a death knell for a program the way hiring a s**tty coach is.100% but what about leaves for a bigger job in 1 year?
Not great, but it’s extremely rare and not a death knell for a program the way hiring a s**tty coach is.100% but what about leaves for a bigger job in 1 year?
What I’m saying is that CU should be looking for the best option who’s willing to put up with our baggage. If a cutie gives a meh guy a shot, maybe she’ll tolerate us while we lose weight and get a better job.All I'm saying is that CU, in its current state, should be looking for undervalued assets. Grimes is one. Walters is not.
We are not going to create that superior situation in the next 60 days. The next coach will take a major risk on Colorado. We do not have leverage in 2022. The goal is to make the atmosphere too desirable to leave if we start to have success.I don’t buy the “no leverage” assertion. First, I’d expect CU will pony up a pretty hefty salary this time around. I realize that, in itself, isn’t a deterrent against our guy getting poached.
And I know the usual Negative Ned’s will shoot me down, but Boulder is a pretty special place. Yeah, “the Flatirons” and all of that. But if we can fix the restrictive policies that hinder recruiting, the University of Colorado job can be extremely appealing. And to me, if you create a situation that appeals to elite level candidates, you have leverage.
Okay. I’ll cede that point to ya. I am pretty curious as to the kind of deal we can offer. $4 or $5 million won’t cut it I don’t think. Maybe $5 million would.We are not going to create that superior situation in the next 60 days. The next coach will take a major risk on Colorado. We do not have leverage in 2022. The goal is to make the atmosphere too desirable to leave if we start to have success.
Just accept this is a stepping stone job. But that would get in way of RG’s ego.I agree with you. My contention is that if Colorado wants an excellent, up and coming coach or a coach with other options, we don’t have leverage.
I know this is an imperfect example, but Boise State continually has its coaches poached, but they plug in someone new every four years and roll on. It’s a winning organization.Other programs have ADs who create an environment that’s hospitable for successful people. Most of them don’t hire guys who are in their late 50s/early 60s simply because they’ll be undesirable to more successful programs.
So you’re saying we need to move to the MWC?I know this is an imperfect example, but Boise State continually has its coaches poached, but they plug in someone new every four years and roll on. It’s a winning organization.
In that sense, I definitely think it’s more important to build a winning culture versus relying on landing a unicorn coach to mask all of the deficiencies. Sometimes I feel like CU is the Washington Redskins/Commanders. They keep changing coaches, keep pursuing free agents, but Dan Snyder can’t produce a winning organization the way Jack Kent Cooke could.
With a new president, and the near term prospect of a new chancellor, I am hopeful that a winning culture, in both athletics and academics, can be reestablished at CU.
This is why I lay the problems at the feet of the Athletic Director. It is their job to create this winning atmosphere by fundraising and working with the admin to create a hospitable environment to win games.I know this is an imperfect example, but Boise State continually has its coaches poached, but they plug in someone new every four years and roll on. It’s a winning organization.
In that sense, I definitely think it’s more important to build a winning culture versus relying on landing a unicorn coach to mask all of the deficiencies. Sometimes I feel like CU is the Washington Redskins/Commanders. They keep changing coaches, keep pursuing free agents, but Dan Snyder can’t produce a winning organization the way Jack Kent Cooke could.
With a new president, and the near term prospect of a new chancellor, I am hopeful that a winning culture, in both athletics and academics, can be reestablished at CU.
I agree. You really see it throughout sports on all levels. There’s a reason why the Lakers won under Buss, the Skins under Jack Kent Cooke, the Broncos under Bowlen, the Heat under Mickey Arison, the Steelers under the Rooney’s. Good organizations create an atmosphere where coaches can thrive. Bad ones do not.This is why I lay the problems at the feet of the Athletic Director. It is their job to create this winning atmosphere by fundraising and working with the admin to create a hospitable environment to win games.
You joke, but agents will absolutely sell that to their clients.How’s this for a sales pitch:
“Listen, if you take the CU job, go 5-7 and have a decent recruiting class, you will be poached by a Big 10 or SEC program and get a Top 10 salary.”
In some ways our dismal record can work in our favor. You don’t need to win 10 games here to get noticed by bigger programs - make a couple bowl games in 3-4 years and that would be seen as a hell of a coaching job. CU could never pitch the job that way, but agents sure could.How’s this for a sales pitch:
“Listen, if you take the CU job, go 5-7 and have a decent recruiting class, you will be poached by a Big 10 or SEC program and get a Top 10 salary.”
This would be the biggest "**** you" imaginable from RG to the fan base. I think that would officially kill my fandom for this programHeard from some connected folks in the Buff Club that the idea of a Sanford hire is gaining some momentum. Be aware and be afraid.
Yep.This would be the biggest "**** you" imaginable from RG to the fan base. I think that would officially kill my fandom for this program
Heard from some connected folks in the Buff Club that the idea of a Sanford hire is gaining some momentum. Be aware and be afraid.
He's striking all the right notes on how the CU HC should conduct business.Heard from some connected folks in the Buff Club that the idea of a Sanford hire is gaining some momentum. Be aware and be afraid.
Hate to say this, but we all should be praying that that our next 4 opponents absolutely embarrass us.well, that is a **** sandwich wrapped in flaming snot.
Must be a bunch of 247 posters in the Buff Club that you're hearing from.Yep.
this is the stone cold truth but the fact that we may end up with this guy as the full timer is really ****ed up.He's striking all the right notes on how the CU HC should conduct business.
If only he was qualified and capable. But he is setting a good template for the next HC.
I don't think he will be viable for us if TCU runs the table - and there is a decent chance they do that.Riley is the hail mary pass. High risk, high reward. I get the attraction. He's the kind of candidate you go to after all your A candidates don't work out iyam.
Might be true. But he does have the last name Riley.If he doesn't have the last name Riley, he is not a part of any conversation for any P5 head coach job. Not even a lowly one like CU. That is the only reason.
I think you overestimate this. I don't think he'll get many P5 HC offers after one season like this. In a world where CU does offer, I think he'd have to choose between that and a blue blood OC job.I don't think he will be viable for us if TCU runs the table - and there is a decent chance they do that.