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Official realignment thread - SEC formally invites OU and Texas to join the conference in 2025

Buffnik said:
UH and TTU aren't football factories. They're at R1 (highest research intensity classification by Carnegie). They're also not focused on agricultural science, which the P12 schools also look down on. And both have invested in medical schools/uni hospitals and have great engineering schools. Plus they're secular.

The only things that don't measure up are non-AAU (not a P12 requirement like B1G) and TX state politics (which didn't stop expansion into AZ and Utah).

P.S. UC-Davis, UCSD and Cal Poly will never be viable & Rice + Tulane would be silly. All great candidates for research alliances, but not for a sports conference. I think nearly all of the current members have figured out that athletics is different than academics- it just can't compromise the academic values.
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When I lived in Texas, UH and TTech most often were schools for the locals who couldn’t get into UT or TAMU. Pretty good serviceable schools but neither academic nor football powerhouses.
I liked the TTech folks though. I noticed early on that the Tech kids did the heavy lifting and their TAMU managers swept in at the 11th hour to take the credit. The more things change, the more they……
 
PAHIBuff said:
When I lived in Texas, UH and TTech most often were schools for the locals who couldn’t get into UT or TAMU. Pretty good serviceable schools but neither academic nor football powerhouses.
I liked the TTech folks though. I noticed early on that the Tech kids did the heavy lifting and their TAMU managers swept in at the 11th hour to take the credit. The more things change, the more they……
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For sure. They're like ASU, WSU and OSU. Can't really compare with AAU members, but still solid universities with some schools of study they're top notch in.
 
Will be very interested to see what kind of media deal they end up with. Outside of BYU, those schools don’t move the needle much. I guess we will see.
 
Not Sure said:
Will be very interested to see what kind of media deal they end up with. Outside of BYU, those schools don’t move the needle much. I guess we will see.
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Agreed. All seem fine as P5 additions. But not as replacements for OU and UT.
 
Best move possible. He acted quickly, 50 days. He kept conference from imploding as some predicted. I think they keep seat at CFP table as well as in governance discussion. AAC adds will be interesting.

just my $0.02
 
leftybuff said:
The Big12 will go softly into that good night. Good for them.
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Another piece of roadkill in the tracks of the University of Texas.

They have managed to run over the SWC and now the B12. In the process they left multiple conference partner programs bleeding on the roadside.

They won't have the power to do any damage to the top half of the SEC but it will be interesting in the next decade or two to see what injuries they can inflict on the bottom half of the programs in that league while serving their own selfish intentions.
 
There is some long term potential with schools like UCF and houston and BYU is a good add but that conference is largely dog **** in football. Great hoops though.
 
MtnBuff said:
Another piece of roadkill in the tracks of the University of Texas.

They have managed to run over the SWC and now the B12. In the process they left multiple conference partner programs bleeding on the roadside.

They won't have the power to do any damage to the top half of the SEC but it will be interesting in the next decade or two to see what injuries they can inflict on the bottom half of the programs in that league while serving their own selfish intentions.
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Texas is like the hot chick who is bat**** crazy, goes through multiple bad marriages, and leaves broken families in their wake.
 
CarolinaBuff said:
No these 4 don't come close to replacing OU and UT but as hawg said it's probably the best they could have done
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By shedding UT there's a free tv market in Houston>bonus<PAC12 fail not another market available that would add 4 Mill viewers and expand the footprint.
OU doesn't move the meter on TV..it's about the money trail & legacies in multiple sports such as Baseball & B-ball & Wrestling.
B12 beat the P12 to the punch with this move, 10 years from now the P12 will look back and ask..how could we have been so wrong to not expand into Texas?
IMO this a long term set back for the P12
 
Always BUFF said:
By shedding UT there's a free tv market in Houston>bonus<PAC12 fail not another market available that would add 4 Mill viewers and expand the footprint.
OU doesn't move the meter on TV..it's about the money trail & legacies in multiple sports such as Baseball & B-ball & Wrestling.
B12 beat the P12 to the punch with this move, 10 years from now the P12 will look back and ask..how could we have been so wrong to not expand into Texas?
IMO this a long term set back for the P12
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OU doesn't move the meter on TV? Huh?
 
Duff Man said:
OU has averaged more viewers in their games over the last few seasons than Texas and Texas A&M. Their ratings are actually very good.
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Doesn't surprise me depending on the source, until the RR game a lot of Texans (UT & A&M) watch OU games leading up to the Cotton Bowl...I do and I'm not a Texas native.
 
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