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Official realignment thread - SEC formally invites OU and Texas to join the conference in 2025

onealcd

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The other thing that people need to realize in this whole conversation, atleast in terms of thr national people, is that they always **** on the pac 12 ratings but that’s completely out of context. The late games and especially thr late games on FS1 don’t rate well because it is so late on the East coast but those execs still really really value that inventory. The pac 12 does just fine in good time slots.
 

skibum

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The other thing that people need to realize in this whole conversation, atleast in terms of thr national people, is that they always **** on the pac 12 ratings but that’s completely out of context. The late games and especially thr late games on FS1 don’t rate well because it is so late on the East coast but those execs still really really value that inventory. The pac 12 does just fine in good time slots.
Yeah - for the earlier slots the P4 conferences are almost interchangeable. An SEC game at 3:30 EST does incrementally better than a P12 game at 3:30 EST. But the P12 dominates the ratings for the 9:00 pm slot.

You have to land that P12 contract, because no one will watch whatever alternative you're left with if you don't get it.

It's the blue ocean theory of competition.

Edit: while I understand the business value reason for playing that slot, as someone who lives in EST, I ****ing hate it. I also acknowledge that it probably has an impact on rankings - although with fox sports and ESPN moving more personnel to LA, that's becoming less of an issue
 
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MtnBuff

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Colorado State: One of the best new stadiums in the country. The football program is struggling, and CSU doesn't exactly deliver the Denver market.
While the P5 conferences are currently paying out in excess of $30 million per team the MWC has been paying out $1.4 million and the AAC about $4 million. Under their new contracts the MWC expects that figure to go up to about $4 million per team but the AAC again leapfrogs ahead going to an expected $7 million per team.

C-USA is currently at about $400,000 per school and the MAC at about $833,000 per school. The Sun Belt pays out about $125,000 per school.

Additionally the AAC has had 4 of the last 6 G5 qualifiers for the New Years bowl slot meaning that the league has split another roughly $4 million among its members in those years.

If CSU could get a bid to the AAC the extra $3 million per year would make a big difference but they would still be far behind the P5 schools.
 

skibum

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AFA & CSU to AAC? If so, MWC would just stay at 10 schools.
"Power 6"

And then he says that the MWC is the 6th.

I almost spit out my coffee laughing.

Setting aside the humor, there might be extra value for AFA and Navy in being in the same conference because they would each essentially gain a new non conference game slot.
 

Buffnik

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"Power 6"

And then he says that the MWC is the 6th.

I almost spit out my coffee laughing.

Setting aside the humor, there might be extra value for AFA and Navy in being in the same conference because they would each essentially gain a new non conference game slot.
If that happened, I'd be very interested in CU doing an annual game with AFA. Home & Home setup would be fine. I'd take that over playing CSU in a heartbeat since it would potentially become a national tv staple.
 

Buffnik

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Fort Worth perspective.

1. Pac-12 was "this close" to adding TCU and Houston.

2. Driver is that these are the #5 (DFW) and #8 (Houston) media markets in the US and, secondly, that each have strong athletics.

3. They're reading a lot into GK adding the "at this time" qualifier when he announced the P12 wasn't expanding. Further, that TTU and other B12 members are saying that they're looking at further expansion. (The speculation is that they're preparing to lose UH & TCU).

 

Big Jim

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Fort Worth perspective.

1. Pac-12 was "this close" to adding TCU and Houston.

2. Driver is that these are the #5 (DFW) and #8 (Houston) media markets in the US and, secondly, that each have strong athletics.

3. They're reading a lot into GK adding the "at this time" qualifier when he announced the P12 wasn't expanding. Further, that TTU and other B12 members are saying that they're looking at further expansion. (The speculation is that they're preparing to lose UH & TCU).


I like the UH/TCU expansion.
 

Jalapeno

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If the P12 goes to 14, I’m curious to see how they do the divisions. That could mean one LA school in each division on a rotating basis.
 

MtnBuff

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"Power 6"

And then he says that the MWC is the 6th.

I almost spit out my coffee laughing.

Setting aside the humor, there might be extra value for AFA and Navy in being in the same conference because they would each essentially gain a new non conference game slot.
Craig Thompson can say whatever he wants.

I posted a couple of days ago the realities of this.

4 of the last 6 G5 teams to get the New Years bowl slot came out of the AAC, 1 from the MWC. With the new media contracts MWC per team payout will be about $4 million per team, for the AAC that figure will be about $7 million per team.
 

Buffnik

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If the P12 goes to 14, I’m curious to see how they do the divisions. That could mean one LA school in each division on a rotating basis.
"Zipper" alignment wouldn't be the worst thing.

You'd play your geographic paired rival for your 7th conference game every year. Rotate through the other 6 teams playing 2 per year so you'd play everyone home/away every 6-year window.

Much better than how other 14-team conference schedules have worked out.
 

UtahaluminTX

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I don't see big Ram donor (there must be some?) going along with losing all the MWC regional games for East Carolina and the like. Smallish income gains in football likely eaten up by flying all the other sports far away too? Also don't buy the just bludgeoned AAC is > MWC - and any replacement teams don't replace those lost. Just more subtraction by addition going on.
 
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