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Prime is Polarizing

hokiehead said:
I didn't mean to paint a picture of comparing the people, so much as comparing their approaches and strategies.

I probably could have phrased it better.
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I suppose that leveraging fame and economic resources in a new way is sort of a comparable.

I think it's most similar to how some entrepreneurs have been at the forefront with changing regulations and distribution models/ infrastructure or marketing approaches to be ahead of the curve and drive fundamental changes to marketplaces. With respect to Prime, most especially when those innovations empowered folks who had previously had little voice.
 
hokiehead said:
I didn't mean to paint a picture of comparing the people, so much as comparing their approaches and strategies.

I probably could have phrased it better.
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I think the only comparison is that they both use social media, but I think the way they use social media is entirely different.

Prime has also been highly successful at everything he's ever done, due to his own work ethic and abilities. Trump was born on 3rd base, has fallen upward his entire life due to his privilege and has convinced everyone he hit a home run.

Sorry man, I get the idea behind you and your wife's conversation, but IMO, their similarities begin and end with "they both use social media a lot"
 
Buffnik said:
I suppose that leveraging fame and economic resources in a new way is sort of a comparable.

I think it's most similar to how some entrepreneurs have been at the forefront with changing regulations and distribution models/ infrastructure or marketing approaches to be ahead of the curve and drive fundamental changes to marketplaces. With respect to Prime, most especially when those innovations empowered folks who had previously had little voice.
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The Alabaster Yak said:
I think the only comparison is that they both use social media, but I think the way they use social media is entirely different.

Prime has also been highly successful at everything he's ever done, due to his own work ethic and abilities. Trump was born on 3rd base, has fallen upward his entire life due to his privilege and has convinced everyone he hit a home run.

Sorry man, I get the idea behind you and your wife's conversation, but IMO, their similarities end with "they both use social media a lot"
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I actually think the biggest similiarity is actually how both used their fame and personality, not track record of success or more traditional "sales points", to attract so many players/voters to them to a degree never seen before for a POTUS candidate or CFB HC.
 
hokiehead said:
I actually think the biggest similiarity is actually how both used their fame and personality, not track record of success or more traditional "sales points", to attract so many players/voters to them to a degree never seen before for a POTUS candidate or CFB HC.
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Lots of people in politics and coaching have traded on fame, though.

Maybe using it to create an empowering populist movement is what you're getting at? That Prime is doing for African Americans in college football what Trump did for the millions of anti-government white power types who didn't used to vote or have a voice in American politics?
 
Buffnik said:
Lots of people in politics and coaching have traded on fame, though.

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youi're right, of course, but I'm not sure I've seen it to the same degree that Trump has in politics or Sanders in football. I could be missing some obvious examples.
Buffnik said:
...Maybe using it to create an empowering populist movement is what you're getting at? That Prime is doing for African Americans in college football what Trump did for the millions of anti-government white power types who didn't used to vote or have a voice in American politics?
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no, not that

I'm clearly not articulating well the concept that's in my head.
 
Bear Fiend said:
That’s twisted
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epw tapout GIF
 
cu3x said:
It sounds like CP being here was part of this deal. I don't understand much of this and haven't looked to be educated. I did get that it ideally will facilitate marketing of players:

awfulannouncing.com

Deion Sanders' Colorado partners with Tempus Ex

Deion Sanders has brought a lot of attention to Colorado. Now, the Buffaloes are Tempus Ex Machina's first individual school partner.
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I feel like this is a soccer thing.
 
Good interview with Jean-Jacques Taylor that is more about CP the man and coach. He is writing a book on CP and the 2022 JSU season. I hadn't heard of him but it sounds like he knows CP well and has also known him for a long time.

Starts at the 4:15 mark

omny.fm

4-27-23 The Matt McClearin Show Hour 2: Jean-Jacques Taylor talks Coach Prime, what will be the NFL Draft shocker, Thursday Tunes - The Matt McClearin Show

Thursday's final hour of The Matt McClearin Show began with Jean-Jacques Taylor, author of the upcoming book, "Coach Prime: Deion Sanders and the Making of Men," saying what Deion Sanders is truly like, what actually happened at Colorado during spring ball, and why Coach Prime is so successful...
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CarolinaBuff said:
Good interview with Jean-Jacques Taylor that is more about CP the man and coach. He is writing a book on CP and the 2022 JSU season. I hadn't heard of him but it sounds like he knows CP well and has also known him for a long time.

Starts at the 4:15 mark

omny.fm

4-27-23 The Matt McClearin Show Hour 2: Jean-Jacques Taylor talks Coach Prime, what will be the NFL Draft shocker, Thursday Tunes - The Matt McClearin Show

Thursday's final hour of The Matt McClearin Show began with Jean-Jacques Taylor, author of the upcoming book, "Coach Prime: Deion Sanders and the Making of Men," saying what Deion Sanders is truly like, what actually happened at Colorado during spring ball, and why Coach Prime is so successful...
omny.fm omny.fm
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#1 Pick is Taylor, right?
 
CarolinaBuff said:
Good interview with Jean-Jacques Taylor that is more about CP the man and coach. He is writing a book on CP and the 2022 JSU season. I hadn't heard of him but it sounds like he knows CP well and has also known him for a long time.

Starts at the 4:15 mark

omny.fm

4-27-23 The Matt McClearin Show Hour 2: Jean-Jacques Taylor talks Coach Prime, what will be the NFL Draft shocker, Thursday Tunes - The Matt McClearin Show

Thursday's final hour of The Matt McClearin Show began with Jean-Jacques Taylor, author of the upcoming book, "Coach Prime: Deion Sanders and the Making of Men," saying what Deion Sanders is truly like, what actually happened at Colorado during spring ball, and why Coach Prime is so successful...
omny.fm omny.fm
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whose going to a buy a book about JSU's 2022 season after Sanders wins the Pac 12 in first year at CU?
 
hokiehead said:
whose going to a buy a book about JSU's 2022 season after Sanders wins the Pac 12 in first year at CU?
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Pac-12 is going to have 5 teams in the top 25 to start the year. Gonna be tough at the top. Bottom half isn't scaring anyone, though.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
I'm more annoyed that Denver Post turned a random person's uneducated opinion into a front and center Tweet and article.
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I know you know this, but this is par for the course. Shock Jock bull**** to drive traffic and clicks....DP has been doing this for over 30 years (as a symptom of being a dying business) The comments to the tweet are funny.
 
1. They were not told they weren't allowed to play college football anywhere ever again.
2. It's a "dream fulfillment" wash because opportunities at CU are being given to the same number of guys who were matriculated out.
3. Cuts are part of football - even at the high school level and below. It is what it is and it's not always all that nice or fair. Like life.
 
Buffnik said:
1. They were not told they weren't allowed to play college football anywhere ever again.
2. It's a "dream fulfillment" wash because opportunities at CU are being given to the same number of guys who were matriculated out.
3. Cuts are part of football - even at the high school level and below. It is what it is and it's not always all that nice or fair. Like life.
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4. Their scholarships were not taken away
 
Buffnik said:
1. They were not told they weren't allowed to play college football anywhere ever again.
2. It's a "dream fulfillment" wash because opportunities at CU are being given to the same number of guys who were matriculated out.
3. Cuts are part of football - even at the high school level and below. It is what it is and it's not always all that nice or fair. Like life.
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Also, if “CU” were the important factor, they could still stay and get their degree on a scholarship.
 
This is a fair piece, but some of the recruiting staffers quoted in here still don’t understand how terrible the roster was last year. They all know CU was 1-11 with a massive point differential, but nobody wants to acknowledge that it’s really not hard to upgrade over the guys who have left. One even went as far as acknowledging that could be the case, but said it was unlikely.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
This is a fair piece, but some of the recruiting staffers quoted in here still don’t understand how terrible the roster was last year. They all know CU was 1-11 with a massive point differential, but nobody wants to acknowledge that it’s really not hard to upgrade over the guys who have left. One even went as far as acknowledging that could be the case, but said it was unlikely.
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Commented about this in another thread. If the players are better than Prime’s staff assessed, how come these folks haven’t showered the castaways with offers?
 
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