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Sandusky update (more evidence against Joe P)
- Thread starter Buffnik
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The action that the NCAA took (martial law basically) was the unprecedented part. These penalties are damn harsh (rightfully so). PSU football is toast for a long long time.
Look again.
Outside of the fine just a longer version of USC's penalties. What PSU did was several orders of magnitude worse that what Reggie Bush and USC did. ****ing weak.
Outside of the Sixty Million Dollar fine. (That's roughly 42 one-off road games at OSU or Michigan). Yeah, you're right. No big difference.
I would suspect some will, 4 years could turn into a decade without a bowl. It worse than I thought theyd give them.
Damn.
Maybe coupled with a 4 year post-season ban the scholarship reduction will have the desired impact.
But historically all reductions have done is make a scholarship offer from the school more desirable to a recruit (i.e., "They have so few spots in this class and they are making me their top priority. I better commit fast before they move on.") This is statistically proven over a bunch of cases, but people don't need to look any farther than USC to see how much scholarship reductions help recruiting performance.
Their rectuing certainly isn't hurting. They lost 1 4* tackle, but they're still in line for a great class. The nation's #1 qb essentially reafirmed his committment to PSU.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/r...istian-hackenberg-holding-pattern-father-says
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/r...istian-hackenberg-holding-pattern-father-says
Technically.
I think "vacated wins" is the stupidest thing ever, though. I think it's insulting to the players more than anything. And it accomplishes nothing.
I think he may quietly change his tune as we get closer to signing day. The severity of what is happening will take a while to sink in.
The difference from the Usc situation is their guys coming in would still get a shot at bowl and a title. The guys coming into Penn St wont get that chance, id say alot will never come. Id hate to be Obrien.
BehindEnemyLines
beware the habu
Agreed. It does absolutely nothing.
My response to them would be: "I agree. If any of the athletic programs tries to cover up child rape, the university shouldn't assist. How often does something like this happen?"
Agree in principle, but in this case I think this was a shot aimed directly at that arrogant prick Paterno (if this does mean he loses the title of all time winningest coach) and I think it needed to be done if for this reason alone.
Exactly. That 4-year postseason ban is the killer in this thing. Anything beyond 1 year and it's a HUGE hit. This will be hard for Penn State to recover from.
Honestly, if I'm Penn State the scholarship reduction doesn't concern me much.
dply
Doble hoja
I get what you're saying but these people aren't exactly reasonable.
I agree, they are pretty bad. I expected along the lines of USC. Had they suspended the program plus this, they wouldnt get off the mat for awhile, may not anyway.
10 Schollies this year, 20 Schollies for the 4 years after.... I think that will be enough to cripple the program and discount the advantage the limits do give.
It honestly doesn´t concern you that you were just effectively stripped of a third of your depth?
You're right about PSU not being USC. USC doesn't have a stadium that size, CA isn't as football-crazed as provincial or as blindly loyal as PA, and it can't match PSU having the largest alumni association of any US university.
People will be shocked at just how well PSU football weathers this storm. It is a massive punishment, though.
If they are not capable of higher order reasoning, they have no business teaching students on a college campus and the university should have no desire to have its name associated with anything they publish.
This. My hunch is PSU will never drop to less than 5 wins, and 6 years from now they'll be a 7-5 or 8-4 type of team.
Not really. NFL rosters are 53 people and they've got a longer season.
It's the post-season ban that matters.