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The 2021-2022 Coaching Carousel
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Tripled his salary. Can’t say I blame him. And probably a better gig
there is actually some small comfort in this. the sheep have the largest athletic budget in the mwc. it is something like 35mm. i am doing this from memory so i may have the numbers ****ed up but this is directionally correct. they were horribly impacted by covid as were we, but still in a reasonably normal year, CU spends something closer to 90mm i think in CUAD budget. the problem isn't what we are paying (even considering modest results) measured against g5 teams. our issue is that we are not currently competitive with the top half of our peer p5 institutions.
in the p5, the new magic number appears to be 8mm+ a year for a good hc. and that doesn't even account for the assistant pool and support and facilities.
a lot of this is on the drooling dip **** larry scott and his cronies. the p12 tv contract is totally ****ed. but, it is more than that. right now, we are still just barely in the conversation among the peer p5 institutions we need to compete with.
the sheep can go **** themselves. i say this and i think norvell is actually a good hire.
Unequivocally yes. All else being equal and if CU can't have any other option, I'd trade Dorrell for Jay Norvell without a question. Is JN a coach that can get CU competing for the south? No. Can he put together a respectable product and not hire a walking dust bin + his son as the two people most important to recruiting? Definitely. Easy trade. Who do I need to suck off to make this happen?
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Anyone else feel like UO started their search by compiling a list of coaches that have beaten Utah?
So Mike McIntyre and Jon Embree are on their list? Sweet.
Big Jim
WTF?
I would be very excited for UO to hire Wilcox as their next HC. That would put a much lower ceiling on what UO has today.
I know others have said the same, but I am simply baffled by having to entertain the notion CSewe hired better than CU did. I have never, not even once, given a thought about CU not having a far superior staff. CSewe hiring Norvell has me plumbing the catacombs of the dark recesses of my mind. What's next clowns? Oh, already there. Spiders?
Am I the only one who would not trade Norvell straight up for HCKD?
Am I the only one who would not trade Norvell straight up for HCKD?
McElwain>>>>>Embree
I'll never forget McElwain and his staff laughing and high fiving after tricking Embree into calling an unnecessary time out in '12.
And here come the spiders....thanks a bunch.
Meh. Barnett was a better coach than Lubick. But Lubick was better than every other CU coach since McCartney--maybe excluding Midnight Mel, we'll see about that.
That’s awesome. Can you imagine that happening here?
Actually, now that I think about it, I can imagine that happening here. There’s only 2-3 guys who “cover” CU athletics anymore. They’re easily controlled.
And they probably don't care...
Bliff Cranch
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“Trust us, you don’t want to know how the sausage is made”
That is exactly my point as well.
Where we disagree is that calling US Healthcare "Free Market Capitalism" is a complete misnomer. US Healthcare is a hidden shell game of lobbyist driven revenue that is the reason the American Middle class is suffering 20-25 years of wage stagnation. The carriers have gotten control of the market and are making millions by hiding the pricing of goods and services in the healthcare industry.
Ask yourself why United Healthcare's stock price has gone up 853% since Obamacare passed. Ask yourself why we are less than 5% of the world's population, but we make up 51% of Big Pharma's profits. We are funding the single payer markets around the world.
It is a scam that makes the Saving and Loan Crisis look like child's play.
Ever wonder why your doctor's visit averages less than 10 minutes? Why do we lead the world in chronic conditions or why our life expectancy is going down? It is all part of the same problem and government involvement is the problem not the solution.
Please don't recite single payer or Medicare for all BS because those will certainly make the problem worse. There are REAL free market solutions that actually do work, however.
Don't get me started!!
Big Jim
WTF?
Barney was 4-3 vs Lubick in the RMS. Lubick had less than half the resources and talent.
Barnett won the Big 10 at Northwestern and the Big 12 at CU. Lubick was big in the WAC.
The rest of the Pac12 shouts a resounding, "YES PLEASE!!!"
Big Jim
WTF?
Some people consider head-to-head games as a true litmus, especially with a large sample size of seven games. Some people prefer to ignore those games as it doesn't serve their purpose.
Some consider that game to be the "Big Game", others see it as just another game on the schedule
Some people refuse to credit a winning record against Lubick--discounting it by saying that CU had twice the resources and talent, yet provide no support for this theory. What's your purpose again? Pointing out that Lubick did well in the WAC and MWC, and lost more than he won against Barnett?
Good talk.
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That sort of logic is how you screw up a hire.