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The Running Game - or lack thereof
- Thread starter Darth Snow
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thegoldenstrand
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I would really like to see more o line as a unit drills and coaching and Monte Clark influence blocks would be good to see practiced just to get more team blocking going, this would help the run game, thoughts?
Are you asking for my thoughts on Monte Clark influence blocks? Because, if you are, I’ll probably just start a new thread now.
I think he's wondering if his statements are thoughts.
It's a combination of a lot of things. That said, if your line can only maintain run blocks for 2 seconds, you play the back that gets to the hole fastest. That's Hayden or Welch. On a couple of runs where Charlie got 2 yards, Hayden would've had 10. Charlie's a gamer, but none of our opponents need to gameplan for Charlie. Hayden, Welch, Augustine, hell even Drelon? Definitely. Now DC's and defenses need to worry about a threat other than simply coming after SS2.
People are really looking way too much into a 1 game sample size
thegoldenstrand
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Uncle Ken, outside of CU and coach Prime, I am a fan of well coached teams and I just hope to see CU's line well coached to play as a unit and team. When Monte Clark coached there was more time spent of offensive line as unit drills than the one on one pass blocking we see so often in the well off videos.
I'm sure the well off videos are a full sample size of practices
thegoldenstrand
Well-Known Member
while blocks were being held on the 4th down run play.. why was there such a distance between tyler brown on the far right side of the line and the linemen on the middle to left side of the line? If this was by design, how does any running back get thru when so many defenders are not blocked or pushed back and free to fill both gaps?
Apologies. I misunderstood what you were saying.
Monte Freakin' Clark? We've brought Monte Freakin' Clark into this discussion?
thegoldenstrand
Well-Known Member
funny
Monte Freakin' Clark? We've brought Monte Freakin' Clark into this discussion?
Tyler Brown made the wrong play, he should not do pass block in that play.
I think this is more of CP's fault
Yeah. See my post in the coaching bazaar
First change I'm making is that Hayden is our featured RB. Not even close.
I also think the OL may need to be reshuffled. You have to roll with Seaton and let him develop, but I'm not sure you can afford to do that while you also have Brown playing out of position at RT. I'm not encouraged by how Zilinskas played tonight. May need to move a guard or Brown to C to solidify the interior OL and play the best of who's left at RT.
I also think the OL may need to be reshuffled. You have to roll with Seaton and let him develop, but I'm not sure you can afford to do that while you also have Brown playing out of position at RT. I'm not encouraged by how Zilinskas played tonight. May need to move a guard or Brown to C to solidify the interior OL and play the best of who's left at RT.
soundfisher
fusker troll
It's not that we aren't committed to it, it's that we don't have the talent. Last night was an abomination. They were only rushing three and four for the most part with the exception of two or three plays and we could not block them. If you can't block them you can't run the rock. I do question whether our coaching on the offensive side of the ball are doing their jobs in terms of development.
soundfisher
fusker troll
Totally agree here. As constitituted, this can not continue.
What about the previous 6 chit shows as well?
Still zero effort to try and run
Talent?
I think we have plenty of talent
Just watching the Broncos use Toss runs with coordinated blocking is so much fun, just like the TD glory days
The spread Shotgun running game is so hard to watch and you know it will not be successful before it happens
Augustave has a nice forward lean and I wish we could just see all the backs get touches, but we have decided and said out loud that the "Potential" of our passing offense is just to seductive to even consider taking 1 or 2 of the WR off the field. That mental decision is the fait accompli
You know how bad CU’s offense is? We just had someone describe the BRONCOS offense as fun.
Watching a toss sweep and seeing all the blockers engage and the back heading for the outside space is better than a handoff to a standing RB that has to start running towards two massive DL that have already blown up the OLYou know how bad CU’s offense is? We just had someone describe the BRONCOS offense as fun.
You know how bad CU’s offense is? We just had someone describe the BRONCOS offense as fun.
Hey, that last pass got Nix to 2.2 YPA!
Our backs can carry the ball, they have shown that given space they can use it, even Charlie who is the least physically talented of the bunch.
Our linemen can all block individually but we simply don't put the emphasis into it needed to have the coordination to be effective. Teams that are effective running the ball are teams that run it enough to get good at what they are doing.
The crazy thing about the current philosophy is that Shedeur could throw the ball 15 fewer times per game and with an effective running threat his numbers would improve (average yards per pass, per completion, etc.) because defenses would be forced to respect the run and not go to these umbrella zones that are denying him the intermediate to deep passes.
Related side note. Dylan Edwards who left us after last year had 4 carries for 54 yards and the tying TD Saturday for K-State.
Great! The season is 17% done and we want to reshuffle the entire O line.
^this... a complete lack of creativity with any sort of pre-snap motions/shifts. All that speed and inability to run between the tackles, and it took 8 qtrs to see a jet sweep or push pass. Where are the RPO's? Is Shurmur stubborn, not with the times or would CP rather lose 'developing' SS2 vs win (compete) doing gimmicky cfb stuff?