That would be fine. I think we should only retire Heisman winners. But hey.
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Travis Hunter Appreciation Thread (Awards: HE12MAN, Walter Camp, Biletnikoff, Bednarik, Lott, Paul Hornung, AP PotY)
- Thread starter SerenityBuff
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Unleash Hell
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I’m a little confused. It says doors open at noon, but Heisman pictures at 11:30 in Chips Corral. Where is Chip’s corral?
in the basketball practice facility... Arena Doors open at noon, but the practice facility opens way before that
Unleash Hell
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Thanks!
MarkW
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Right across the street from Montgomery Wards and King Soopers when it was a part of Crossroads. Great spot after a big day of shopping!
I was hoping that someone would respond as such. No one believes me when I tell them there was an Azars Big Boy there.
Disagree. Nozzle setting is full-blast
My favorite argument is that Jeanty made Boise St good and he’s the reason they are in the playoff. Give me a ****ing break. That school has had a ton of good seasons, this year is really no different, other than they DIDN’T beat a CFB Goliath.
Boise likely has the same record without him
Exactly. CU most likely isn’t going 1-11 to 9-3 in two years without Hunter.
I agree - they had a good all around team, and the MWC was absolute dog**** this year, as it kind of has been non stop since they lost Utah, BYU, and TCU. SDSU sometimes makes it interesting, but it's been Boise and pretty much no one else for years now.
That's true too, but this argument has driven me nuts over the past month or so. The Heisman is not an MVP award. It's never been meant to have a "what would the team do without him" aspect. It's just the best player in college football. Full stop. So you can throw the "where would Boise be without Jeanty" or "where would CU be without Hunter" arguments out the window, because they're irrelevant.
I think Hunter is the better player regardless, so I don't feel any need to tear Jeanty down, but I will go to my grave believing he and Skatterbo are the same player, and if you switched them, Skatterbo would have Jeanty's stats and Jeanty would have Skatterbo's stats. Which is not meant to be shade on either one of them, I think they're great players - just not in the same league as Travis Hunter.
If it was truly an MVP award, Shedeur would/should win in a landslide. It's hard to think of another player in the country that means more to his team's success than him.
I think it would be him or Cam Ward.
I thought this from the moment I started hearing people say that Boise wouldn't be in the playoffs without him. I remembered watching him in weeks 1-3 but also remember thinking the Boise o-line was just really good. In game one, Boise had a second running back go off for iirc 100+ yards and then the same thing happened week 3. That line just opens up massive holes. I think after week 3, BSU realized they had a potential heisman candidate so the 2nd and 3rd string running backs started getting fewer carries, which is very obvious from the box scores. Zero reason Sire Gaines and Dylan Riley shouldn't have gotten more touches to spell Jeanty when one was averaging 7.8 YPC and the other was averaging 6.1.
Paging @Da Lama
In a surprise to ABSOLUTELY no one, I am also on the list.
My sarcasm isn’t for everyone, apparently.
He's hosting his radio show right now.
MarkW
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I remember someone here saying that Hunter wasn't a first round caliber WR.
Cruel to not even tag medford
JMBuffs
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Adidas invested in a winner, great move by them.
If Hunter said "I'm never going to play another down of DB, don't want to do it." he would still be a top 8-10 pick in the draft. If he said the same except WR instead of DB he would still be a top 5 pick in the draft.I remember someone here saying that Hunter wasn't a first round caliber WR.
I'm not DBT old but I've been around a long time and can't remember anybody who was close to good enough to be drafted that high at two positions.
Even if you look at some of the guys who "could" have been two way players, Prime, Woodson, Shaq Thompson, Miles Jack, etc. Maybe the closest was Champ Bailey who actually led Georgia in receiving yards and TD catches for a season while an all-American DB.
A few of them were good enough to be 1st rounders on one side of the ball, fewer to be drafted in the top 5-10 picks. As talented as they were none of them was seen as a top 10 pick exclusively on both sides of the ball.
Champ could have. If he had focused on WR he was good enough to become a top of the draft WR but he wasn't. Prime and Woodson focusing on WR may have been 1st rounders but despite their athletic abiities I would argue that they didn't have the instincts and fine WR skills that differentiate.
What Travis Hunter has done is unique in college football. Because of his example openning the door we will probably see many more players try going both ways. Odds are though that we still won't see another Travis Hunter for a long time.
Ringer
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I agree with your assessment, Mr. MtnBuff.