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DBT

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TCU was put on one year probation after self reporting 33 players in football, basketball and other sports were getting paid for work they didn’t do. Pretty light punishment.
 

Buffnik

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TCU was put on one year probation after self reporting 33 players in football, basketball and other sports were getting paid for work they didn’t do. Pretty light punishment.
I miss the good ole days when a car dealership could employ an athlete to turn the lights on an off in exchange for a car to drive and some walking around money. ;)
 

DBT

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So unless there are some signs that Arizona or Oregon were somehow involved I assume they’re safe. Sounds like this was strictly a deal between the club teams and the sportswear companies. Right?

Isn’t it the theory, with lots of evidence, that the schools paid the companies to steer the players their way?
 

manhattanbuf

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So unless there are some signs that Arizona or Oregon were somehow involved I assume they’re safe. Sounds like this was strictly a deal between the club teams and the sportswear companies. Right?

Isn’t it the theory, with lots of evidence, that the schools paid the companies to steer the players their way?
Who paid whom? The shoe companies want coolness and exposure, so they sign mega deals with schools to be their official apparel providers. The shoe companies want to be affiliated with winning programs, so they’re willing to facilitate preferential recruiting situations.
 

Buffnik

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Who paid whom? The shoe companies want coolness and exposure, so they sign mega deals with schools to be their official apparel providers. The shoe companies want to be affiliated with winning programs, so they’re willing to facilitate preferential recruiting situations.
Not just that. The head coaches are individually on those shoe company payrolls. Often overlooked when a college is making a hire is the huge factor of Nike (or Adidas) schools being almost certain to hire Nike (or Adidas) coaches. That network ties directly into what the shoe affiliations are for the AAU programs that a school focuses its recruiting upon.
 

DBT

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Not just that. The head coaches are individually on those shoe company payrolls. Often overlooked when a college is making a hire is the huge factor of Nike (or Adidas) schools being almost certain to hire Nike (or Adidas) coaches. That network ties directly into what the shoe affiliations are for the AAU programs that a school focuses its recruiting upon.
I’m aware of all of that. But where is the NCAA violation? I want hides nailed to the wall.
 

Buffnik

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I’m aware of all of that. But where is the NCAA violation? I want hides nailed to the wall.
Every single recruit good enough to be projected that he'll get recruited for D1 has gotten an impermissible benefit at some stage. Got to decide how pure you want this to get. Handlers/street agents/advisors start it with a lot of these kids before high school to get them into the right situation and grab a piece of them.

If a college program won't deal with that scene, it cannot recruit. So what should we do about it? Gonna sanction CU or Tad because we paid a questionable guy for a scouting report as a consultant in order to be able to have a recruiting conversation in the guy's area?
 

L Buff

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A booster at American Stripper U acted inappropriately towards women? Shocking.
 

GoBuffs!!

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Just watched "The Scheme", Seems like a pretty big f-up by the FBI. Not sure how that is not entrapment.

But that said, pretty weak FBI criminal case, but 100% NCAA violations all around.
 

BuffDog

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I just watched the movie too. I really feel bad for Christian Dawkins. Seemed like a good guy entrapped (partially by Marty Blazer who was a true criminal) and pushed over the edge by an overzealous FBI. The FBI and the Southern District of New York (SDNY) do a lot of good things but this was not one of them.

Sean Miller was paying Ayton $10K/month. He lied at his press conference about not paying players and they have him on tape talking about paying players. Will Wade from LSU also caught on wire tap talking about paying players.

There are always two sides to each story so I am open to hearing how he did something that justified the FBIs actions. The lead FBI agent that was pushing Dawkins ended up getting caught stealing cash during the investigation. You can't make this up.

Christian Dawkins was the fall guy when the Feds for some reason decided not to pursue Sean Miller and Will Wade.

Time to pay the players. Really like his entrepreneurial spirit and wish him well.
 

AeroBuff99

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Just finished watching it. Dude is driven to succeed. I think the whole defrauding the universities thing is complete bs. They were willing participants in the whole thing. Without that the rest falls apart. I could see this all getting overturned. It does show though how much outright cheating there is and why we should be happy to be a 20 win per year team.

If amateurism goes away, it will split the NCAA into those that pay and everyone else. They are going to have to set a salary cap though.
 

BuffDog

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Will be interesting to see what Arizona, LSU and the NCAA do. If nothing is done then they are sanctioning the under the table paying of players. Allowing players to head directly to the NBA will help a little.
Think of the season we would have had if we paid Ayton $120,000. Think of the return on that investment. $5M+?
No reference to the recently released movie on ESPN's Men's Basketball page?
 
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