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Official realignment thread - SEC formally invites OU and Texas to join the conference in 2025
When you look at the map of where people care most about college football, and where recruits come from, CU is very unlikely to get a B!G offer. As we travel east past the Mississippi and South towards dixie the odds improve markedly.
Dont get me wrong. The Big Ten might *love* to add CU just like we love them. Giddy love. But the people who pay the bills, the parents, in these conferences are the TV people. And their job is to make a market. And theyre not going to add millions in additional annual cost per year on top of what they are already paying unless they get a lot more god damned new eyeballs in return.
As our resident optipesimest I share your pain my brother. I wish it werent this way too.
This move to add UT and Texas Lite (OU) to the SEC is about capturing the Dallas and Houston TV markets for ABC/ESPN. Mercenary ****.
ESPN already owns the whole thing without owning it all. They will dictate to the rest of us who the winner are losers will be wether we like it or not. And I ****ing hate that idea.
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Been a slow decline since about 2008 but picking up its pace in the CFP era because that meant CFB is losing what made it unique especially the postseason bowls.
Im watching FCS ball while it is still fresh but they have had the issue of the same teams qualifying for the playoffs year in and out. This was something I knew would be an issue in the FBS CFP right away.
I’m not that excited about the 12 team playoffs because in this spring’s FCS 16 team playoffs, five teams from one conference made the playoffs and that’s almost 1/3 of the field. The SEC will have 4-5 teams in every year if they continue being strong.
i think it is also likely that the 12 team playoff is dead. i don't think any conference is going to agree without understanding where all the dominoes fall.
given we are in the p12, a part of me thinks they will literally do nothing unless forced by members threatening to leave. the acc could also **** everything up by being more aggressive than the p12 or b10. and i don't see a path for our Buffs to somehow land in an expanded acc.
we live in dangerous times, but WTF do i know? i thought the move to the p12 was brilliant. maybe it will turn out that way, with what texasssss and the okies just did to the b12 but right now, it is concerning.
I’m talking about the new SEC deal that will pay those teams more than the B1G.
I actually like this, but I would still like to jettison Arizona, Arizona State, Oregon State, and Washington State.
The Big Ten and Conference Realignment: Merging with the Pac-12 Could Make Sense
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wish this would happen
Otherwise, when they say this league covers Los Angeles - Denver - Chicago - Detroit - Cleveland - New York that is a strong statement
CU has the growing Denver and the Mountain Market to continue its expansion, it is an AAU school, and IF you gave CU $100 Million per year to invest and focus on Football, would it and could it make the moves to be a better program? I also would like to see less teams at the top of the food chain, because then assistant coaches and top head coaches could migrate upwards, and in that case, CU could upgrade.
New York. Heh.
You can’t ignore the Phoenix market. More people and a ton more talent than Denver
I'm interested in your opinion of which D1 football schools carries the most impact in NYC.
I've never lived in or near NYC, but my perception is a ranking something like:
- Syracuse
- UConn
- Notre Dame
- Army
- Rutgers
- Buffalo
Jettisoning UA and ASU only makes sense in that they’re a bunch of insufferable douchebags. But USC has them beat on that score anyway, Arizona is as important if not more so than Colorado.
what Colorado brings to the table, outside of what has been mentioned, is a geographical link between the B1G territory and the PAC territory. We are right in the middle. I’m not sure that really means anything anymore, but it might.
what Colorado brings to the table, outside of what has been mentioned, is a geographical link between the B1G territory and the PAC territory. We are right in the middle. I’m not sure that really means anything anymore, but it might.
Penn state is a huge draw there.
I was wondering about PSU but didn't realize that. I left them off the list because geographically they're so far west of NYC and don't have the religious connection of a ND.
I'm questioning if there is some sort of tuition deal between residents of Penn and NY (a.la. CO and AZ; WI and MN), but quick googling doesn't look like it.
None of the above, really. Though you probably see more Syracuse gear than the others, college football hardly registers for NYC natives. Thus, the transplants just follow the teams they bring with them. The local coverage of college football is basically nonexistent, except for the Friday betting lines in the tabloids.
if the Pac holds with the 12 members they have, and the XII leftovers don't get absorbed somewhere else, then I think CSU is back on the table for XII membership. otherwise, they're still a MWC member
IMO do a straight up B1G and Pac12 merger, plus add ISU and ND and figure out the football schedule later. Don’t let the SEC be the decision makers that will reshape college athletics.
They need to keep the biggest parts and traditional games in place: Texas-OU in the Cotton Bowl during the state fair; The Cocktail Party in Jax in late October/early November; the Iron Bowl at the end of the season; the Egg Bowl; Bama-Tennessee on the 3rd Saturday in October; Florida-FSU; bring back Texas-A&M, etc. And this obviously applies to other conferences too.
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SEC gobbling up Clemson, FSU, etc would help pac, no? Nowhere else for Big and Pac to go but join forces.
I would add from my time living in NJ that hardly anyone there cares as well, there wasn’t a ton of excitement about Rutgers.
One thing cool about the transplants in NY at least during my time there was they did the CU watch parties well. I can’t fully recall the name now but they used to hold them at a bar in Hell’s Kitchen and brought in Buff Gold for the games which was like heaven for me.
It'd help the Pac 12 in that it finishes the ACC and therefore bumps the P12 up a place.
Not as important as during the last round as I believe this is more driven by the future rather than the present and other factors (brand recognition, general size of the fanbase) can make up for it.
It would definitely let the big 10 poach schools like Virginia, North Carolina, maybe notre dame and Georgia tech???? But letting the SEC have full control of Florida, Georgia, Louisiana and texas is a disaster for both the big 10 and pac 12 long term.
I agree in general (CU is 38th most valuable brand). But many on here continue to insist realignment based on TV markets or where people are moving to. I’m guessing that’s not really as important this time. Phoenix may be huge, but how does that matter?
As of right not tv markets are still a big part of the equation, there is no doubt about that. Even when things switch to streaming you are still going to be packaged with a network more than likely to force people to pay fees for your broadcast. That is why I still really want the pac 12 to go in big with fox since they have half the nfl contract and there is a lot of leverage there. Bringing cbs into the equation would be awesome too.
2024 is the year the Big 12 rights expire. They'll be out before that once the lawyers get involved.