Medford M.
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Some of y'all are Charmin soft if you read that as hating.
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2024 Colorado Haters Thread
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**** you
Medford M.
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Those would have been among the weakest OPI's I've ever witnessed.
I think the question to ask is why would any CU fan not hate them?
Do you have a source to share for those kind of stats?
That’s what my stats feed told me from the game.
He'll figure it out. I love that play if it meant risking giving them the ball with 90 seconds left instead of 50 seconds. That's a big difference between the 60 and 5 or less that it actually was.
I thought the same thing. I felt the lack of innovation in the running game criticism was valid, but did he expect us to control the lines of scrimmage, run the ball, not make any dumb penalties, and still somehow not cover? Was he expecting a bunch of stalled drives and missed FGs?
Great stat, thanks. I'm surprised it took them a quarter to figure that out after watching a years worth of tape of that exact thing killing us week in and week out. We have to figure out how to punish that consistently or it's going to be a long year.
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We did punish it. Shedeur had a monster game. It’s why we ran the ball with little success.
Oh noes!!! Your feelings got hurt again.“deny the existence of racism.” “willfully ignorant.”
Maybe you should hide from the discussion?
FFS, I think we're all chiming in here because we think you're capable of learning. But you're trying to prove us wrong on that front because you just can't tolerate the mildest of critiques and then act like you're being bullied.
Sack up dude.
Joel is a great Buff, but he has done that his entire career. I understand why and commend him for sticking to his guns, but it is oftentimes frustrating to listen to him
Dude. I’m being accused of saying things I did not say nor believe. I know that much of the criticism of Prime is because of race. I never said otherwise. I just argued, maybe poorly, that we need to be careful before accusing every criticism of being based on racism.
You can’t find a single post of mine where I “denied the existence of racism.” If anything I posted implies that then it was poorly worded.
I’m totally aware that racism exists. I’m totally aware that some criticism of Prime is spurred by racism. I’ve read the tweets from the haters.
So, all of that said, it’s very possible that I do a poor job explaining myself. But I also believe certain people intentionally misrepresent certain posts to further whatever agenda they have.
This all started because I said “some hate is deserved.” In my mind I meant “criticism of the football team.” But others accused me of, paraphrasing, saying race based hate of Prime and his players was deserved. That isn’t what I meant, nor implied.
You hit on a very important point here about the entire discussion.
All racism doesn't look the same or have the same degree of intensity but the simple reality is that if a person allows, even unconsciouscly, to allow race to impact their thinking or actions that is racism. It doesn't have to be running around in white robes and burning crosses to be racist.
The very simple act of judging somebodies speech based on speech patterns or word usage, of favoring one person over another because they are "more like us," and many more similar things that go back to a person because of their race is racism.
The coaching fraternity, and the media that covers it, has grudgingly accepted that there will be Black coaches. No offense intended here but they are okay with the Karl Dorrells and the Tyrone Willinghams of the world. Guys who are Black but who fit into the expectations the established coaches have of how a coach should act, speak, and respond to the established white coaches.
Prime isn't that. Prime is a man who has had success at every level he has ever tried. He is a man of high morals who cares about his players as human beings, who expects them to be quality students and human beings, to treat others well, who is not shy about acknowledging his faith, but who refuses to hide who he happens to be.
Prime is a Black man who is justifiably proud to be a Black man and who encourages the same in his players. This is very hard for many in the coaching and media world to accept, including some Black members of those groups who have adapted their styles and thinking to fit the expectations of the establishment.
You said that bias has nothing to do with racism. You said that much of the criticism Prime gets is not blatantly racist, so it must not be racist.
You have repeatedly ignored that many of the “about football” critiques Colorado received are not applied to white coaches in similar circumstances.
Give it a rest, man. Geez.
cu3x
Well-Known Member
You're a jerk, I think. Kind of a bully too.
FWIW, I think about the racism a Black American has personally experienced, has had to witness Black friends & family experience, and see the history of slavery, Jim Crow and other institutionalized racism that makes up American history... and I come away kind of thankful and thinking "probably a better person than I would be" whenever a Black American isn't a militant asshole who automatically distrusts and dislikes all White people.
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
Can we just agree...
Some of the hate directed towards CU and Prime specifically...is racially motivated
Some of it isn't
Some of the hate directed towards CU and Prime specifically...is racially motivated
Some of it isn't
Love Klatt, but let's not forget he went all in on Embree being "the guy" and stated loosely he didn't think he could support the program if Embree was fired. He's got a great football mind, but we all spin off track from time to time.
Don't feed DBT's victim complex, he might actually be making a little progress.
The impulse for white dudes to circle the wagons when there's a hint of critique that dares to label something as racist or racially insensitive is infuriating and exhausting. We need to be better and actually engage with these questions instead of just saying, "but maybe it wasn't racist," then calling anyone who dared disagree a bully. It's a weak minded cop out to try to play the victim here.
The critiques any of the journalists are facing for loosely dabbling in racist tropes or showing a bias by laser focusing on every perceived flaw of Deion's is nothing compared to the bull**** every kid on this team is dealing with. One of those two things should bother you all a lot more than the other.
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So much of that was about the angry rift between the GB loyalists and anything that came about because of Bohn.
Old white men unite!
That you write these insane missives without any concept of irony is one of the funniest things in America today.