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Bowl Games (other than ours) and associated silliness 2024 Plus the Playoffs

This was talked about earlier but here is Herbie accurately calling out the committee. To nobody's surprise the haters will just say he's shilling for the SEC...

Too little. To slow. Cig may get them there. But that was a team of lower level players trying to make too big of a step up last night. Outclassed is the right work. Likely to be used again.
 
I know what you mean (and don't disagree) but I loathe Texas and their self-entitled fans as much or more than any other team outside of Nubb and tOSU. Texass definitely joined the most self-entitled conference, so it's a good fit.

I'm torn re the last game tonight ... I want to root for the Vols, despite their conference affiliation, and despite the fact that if they beat the Suckeyes it will probably spell curtains for Ryan Day, who I would like to still see as their coach for next year's Michigan game. ;)

I'm full on go Bucks. **** the SEC. Interestingly, my OSU grad buddy is torn. He can never root against his team in a game this big, but he doesn't want Ryan Day to keep his job, and every win in this tournament gives him more job security.
 
If anything, these games tell you that the talent still matters most. Recruiting is still the key for CFB. We need to keep CP for 5+ years and have similar recruiting class for 3+ classes to catch up with yen talent gap.
 
I know what you mean (and don't disagree) but I loathe Texas and their self-entitled fans as much or more than any other team outside of Nubb and tOSU. Texass definitely joined the most self-entitled conference, so it's a good fit.

I'm torn re the last game tonight ... I want to root for the Vols, despite their conference affiliation, and despite the fact that if they beat the Suckeyes it will probably spell curtains for Ryan Day, who I would like to still see as their coach for next year's Michigan game. ;)
What do you have against Just for Men users?
This was talked about earlier but here is Herbie accurately calling out the committee. To nobody's surprise the haters will just say he's shilling for the SEC...

I saw this, and I see where he's coming from. That said, let's go back to November 23. We got punked at Kansas. BYU went down again. Those two games made the Big 12 a one bid league. Alabama gets embarrassed by the worst Oklahoma team since the John Blake era. Ole Miss loses to Florida.

All the chaos that day locked us into what we got in my view. Going to be really interesting if Tennessee-Ohio State is a blowout.

The problem with this sport right now is the bloated conferences. The Big 12's a great example-four teams tied for 1st, and 2 of them (CU and Iowa State) did not play ANY of the other three. If you have to resort to wacky tiebreakers to determine CCG participants, you've got problems.
 
Disagree. If this is about crowning a champion, 12 is superfluous. If it's a money grab, then you have a point I guess. But we have to stop pretending that it's anything more than about TV money.

I'll certainly agree that it's about money and with anything more than about 8 teams you're going to get very flawed teams in there and hence games like we've seen so far. But even with 2 non-competitive games so far and on a our way to a 3rd I'm still loving it, especially with this first round being on campus.
 
I know what you mean (and don't disagree) but I loathe Texas and their self-entitled fans as much or more than any other team outside of Nubb and tOSU. Texass definitely joined the most self-entitled conference, so it's a good fit.

I'm torn re the last game tonight ... I want to root for the Vols, despite their conference affiliation, and despite the fact that if they beat the Suckeyes it will probably spell curtains for Ryan Day, who I would like to still see as their coach for next year's Michigan game. ;)
Whomever has a better chance to beat Oregon.
 
This was talked about earlier but here is Herbie accurately calling out the committee. To nobody's surprise the haters will just say he's shilling for the SEC...

It's not about best 12. It's about earning your way in.

Were people expecting an expanded playoff to equate to more competitive games to watch?

That's not how any expanded playoff in any college sport works.

Look at the FCS playoffs. There's typically tons of blowouts in round one and even round two. Hell, sometimes there's blowouts in the semis.

The expanded playoff just equals more games.

It's not going to result in weird results or more great games.
 
I'll certainly agree that it's about money and with anything more than about 8 teams you're going to get very flawed teams in there and hence games like we've seen so far. But even with 2 non-competitive games so far and on an our way to a 3rd I'm still loving it, especially with this first round being on campus.
I mean, I love watching Indiana, SMU, and Clemson get embarrassed by being in games they have no business being in…but I’d prefer for these games not to be happening.
 
It's not about best 12. It's about earning your way in.

Were people expecting an expanded playoff to equate to more competitive games to watch?

That's not how any expanded playoff in any college sport works.

Look at the FCS playoffs. There's typically tons of blowouts in round one and even round two. Hell, sometimes there's blowouts in the semis.

The expanded playoff just equals more games.

It's not going to result in weird results or more great games.
Part of the argument was that because basketball works so well and you have deep runs by Cinderellas, football teams like Indiana, SMU, and Boise should be given a shot to do so. Problem is, FBS football isn’t college basketball. This process is dumb.
 
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At some point the games have to matter or it just becomes the SEC/B10 invitational.
The best of the Big 12 and ACC need to come together to make a legit P3.

By that, I mean leave the basketball schools behind.

CU, Utah, ASU, BYU, OSU, KSU, TCU, TTU & WVU + Miami, FSU, GT, Clemson, Louisville, Pitt, NCST, VT & Notre Dame to make an 18 team conference. SEC can add UNC & UVA to get to 18 and we'd have 54 teams at the top. The ones that are left can figure things out with the Sun Belt, AAC & MWC to form a couple conferences that also play really good football but are a step down.
 
You can not have losses to two 6-6 teams. Bad losses cancel out good wins 🤷.

Indiana shouldn't have been there. Their schedule was atrocious...but Bama, Ole Miss South Carolina shouldn't have made it either.

If you're going to let teams in on "upside" then the regular season has absolutely zero meaning.
Exactly like what Bilas always says about the Dance field: I care a helluva lot more about who you've shown you can beat than who you've shown you can lose to. Most games played are irrelevant to whether or not you can make noise in a tournament against the best in the sport.
 
You mean the system that gave the 2001 Fuskers a berth in the MNC game? I must disagree.
Doesn't matter who got into the game. Miami was the best team and would have blown the doors off of either CU or Oregon as well.

Nubs getting on doesn't change the fact that the system gave us the best team winning the championship
 
The 12-team format was needed to preserve the prestige of New Year’s Bowl Games and allow a high ticket cost for an on-campus game. Both of which are key to funding programs in a post-NIL era. In many sports and in most years the first-round matchups are not that great for neutral fans.
 
What people don't want to admit...but it's the truth, is that the BCS was the best way to determine a true champion.
And probably that pre-Bowl Alliance with conf bowl tie ins were actually more interesting.

Imagine this bowl season if we had
- Oregon (B1G) v Boise State (since they’ll be Pac-12 soon)
- UGA v Clemson in the Sugar Bowl
- ND v Texas in the Orange Bowl
>>> Boise beats Oregon = natty is up for grabs. Chaos. Interest. It’d be awesome.
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- ASU v Penn St (🤷🏻‍♂️) in the Fiesta Bowl
 
Exactly like what Bilas always says about the Dance field: I care a helluva lot more about who you've shown you can beat than who you've shown you can lose to. Most games played are irrelevant to whether or not you can make noise in a tournament against the best in the sport.
That's also basketball though.

Football, if you lose to a team, you probably aren't that much better or worse than they are.

Football isn't a crapshoot. If a team is markedly more talented than their opponent, then they're going to win 99% of the time.

What's going to happen if you have a year where...say Bana is 7-5, but their QB missed 4 games, and that's where 4 of their losses happened?

Well, you can easily argue that team has one of the 12 highest ceilings.

Games have to matter. W's and L's have to matter.
 
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