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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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And I'd put down $20 that it's Delaware.
All I read into it is that 7 of them didn't have the courage to deal with media questions they are unable to answer at this time.
NuggNinja
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It’s realism and personally I found the sniping at the Big 12 to be a little discouraging.
Kind of like Mizzou.
Fogo
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Harvey Mudd? Cucamonga Baby!
josef
Club Member
Do we know which AD's didnt make it?
Bold statement GK
i think K made a few good points--- maybe could have done it more delicately. it is all about tv markets, he said. if you hear that and take it to heart then a lot of what the remnant big12 are squawking about is completely irrelevant. the pac even in its ****ty state, owns a better set of tv markets split among fewer teams. IF the conference could hold together...
if everyone waits to see what if anything the big does after they ink their tv deal, then no team in the pac other than maybe wsu or osu have any incentive to jump to the big 12 now. the big 12 will still be there as a life raft for those of us in the pac who don't make it into the big-- well except maybe wsu and osu again.
as much as the b12 is posturing right now, are they really in a position to not add, say the 4 corner schools just because they are bent the schools waited until they were turned down by the big? those 4 schools add important tv markets and that means they add dollars when the next big 12 deal comes up a year after the pac.
hang tight and play it out. if the big goes really really big we might make the cut. and if they don't, the b12 will be a willing life raft.
if everyone waits to see what if anything the big does after they ink their tv deal, then no team in the pac other than maybe wsu or osu have any incentive to jump to the big 12 now. the big 12 will still be there as a life raft for those of us in the pac who don't make it into the big-- well except maybe wsu and osu again.
as much as the b12 is posturing right now, are they really in a position to not add, say the 4 corner schools just because they are bent the schools waited until they were turned down by the big? those 4 schools add important tv markets and that means they add dollars when the next big 12 deal comes up a year after the pac.
hang tight and play it out. if the big goes really really big we might make the cut. and if they don't, the b12 will be a willing life raft.
That microphone he's holding is historic sports memorabilia. He should list it on eBay.
chitownbuff
Club Member
Let’s get ready to ruuuuuuuummmmmble!
ahoelsken
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If it were all about TV markets, Nebraska's not in the Big 10.
or like a bunch of other teams-- first mover matters. those that lucked into the right conference at the right time are far less screwed than we are.
you think iowa or vandy or both or either of ol miss and msu are there if things were renegotiated from scratch? etc. this is the exact same circumstance that ku and iowa state found themselves in when the b12 exploded and the same as wsu and osu find themselves in now.
none of this **** evolved in a perfectly logical linear dollars and sense way but a purely linear dollars and sense analysis is driving things right now.
Mb2658
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We are live!!!!!!!!!!
Mb2658
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Walmart has hot **** when it opened a store in Glenwood Springs. The K-Mart didn’t stand a chance.
man, you were already cooler than a lot of the rural towns-- a k mart? ****. that is high class.
Mb2658
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K-mart and the hot springs. Does it matter that the hot springs are just heated bum piss in a pool that was never drained? It has a certain terroir.
went to gs with a bunch of other frosh from boulder-- got a dose of mono that wouldn't quit. still on the upper end of the spectrum of "classy" towns in the rural mountain colorado world...
story out in the LA Times that the USC President shut down P12 expansion last year.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/stor...l-folt-pac-12-expansion?utm_source=reddit.com
https://www.latimes.com/sports/stor...l-folt-pac-12-expansion?utm_source=reddit.com
Mb2658
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You’re lucky that mono was all that you left with.
Holt was part of the three President group that explored expansion and was pretty cold to it. Implied USC was concerned about diluting their revenue more and increased competition when they were already struggling to be dominant. Apparently 15 minutes into an hour presentation at their first meeting Holt spoke up and said she wasn’t sure why they were even discussing expansion. “Carol shut it down.” Another source “ she cooled the whole process.”
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Folt killed the P12 coming and going.
C%#?
A Pac 14 or 16 including TCU, OSU, TTU and KU for example wasn’t going to generate enough money per school in a media deal to keep SC happy, anyways. Them leaving was inevitable, but the irony is that their ineptitude on the field (relative to their blue blood standard) the past decade, is really what killed it (along with Larry Scott)
ahoelsken
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People in the sport are smarter now. The game's changed. Money is now driving EVERYTHING, and it wasn't then. If it was, we likely would have joined Nebraska in the Big 10. I've said this before, and I'm going to say it again-Our biggest mistake was not going to Nebraska and saying let's sell ourselves as a package to the B1G or Pac 10 back then. We both wanted out, but I think its clear we........miss each other lol.
That's what really intrigues me about the next round of this in about 12 years when the ACC's grant of rights will get closer to expiring. That's when we get down to no more than 3 somewhat main conferences IMO. The Big 10 and the SEC will obviously be in the picture, but I see another league being a part of that. Like nobody goes down to a group of 5 type deal on paper-but things work the way they do now. Georgia (2018), Alabama (last year), and Ohio State (2016) have all made the playoff without winning their respective conferences in this system. I know they're all brands, but they're all Big 10/SEC members. In normal years, would that ever happen to the ACC/Big 12/Pac? My guess: We'll see more of this type of thing post-the ACC getting devoured. In short:
3 Power Leagues of 20ish each-SEC/Big 10 will obviously be the first two. They'll grab whatever they want from the ACC and the third league. The third league will take the leftovers of the ACC and maybe a WSU/OSU out of the MWC if the PAC dissolves or whatever. They'll roll forward with the CFP committee operating on steroids with the same bias they now have.
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SC had a lot to do with the PAC failing with a combination of not being able to win enough to be respected and cheating while failing to win.
They will still never match Texas as a conference killer but they certainly aren't who they think they are.
And I have no idea how they will do it but sometime in the future the SEC is going to wish they had never invited Texas to the party.
Appeasement? (An excellent photographic analogy, BTW.)
However, I think K would need to be "in the room" (re in Munich) with the B1G before the analogy works property. The B1G has no fear of the PAC12, so our "appeasement" is deeply irrelevant--sadly.