This is serious copium. It is not normal behavior to refuse to speak to a person because someone else at their place of work wrote something about you.
Not really. College football coaches are strange and egotistical as hell.
This is serious copium. It is not normal behavior to refuse to speak to a person because someone else at their place of work wrote something about you.
You're a coward. Have the ****ing balls to call a spade a spade. You can't.Not really. College football coaches are strange and egotistical as hell.
It's not race...it's specifically c to Prime saying it. If this was Jay Norvell, no one would even know about it.Pointing out the obvious but I think it needs to be continuously hammered home until it changes.
This wouldn’t be a big story if Prime was a white dude. The veiled racism across “journalism” continues to be gross
You are a cow turd.You're a coward. Have the ****ing balls to call a spade a spade. You can't.
You're trying way too ****ing hard here, champ, why don't you take a few plays offSo who you mad at? The coach or the coach?
There is example after example of white coaches having feuds with the press. And I think it’s a bit troubling that if the media gets in a spat with a black coach the race card gets thrown out. Implying that Keeler is a racist because he is critical of Prime troubles me a bit. But that doesn’t mean Keeler isn’t a hack.I'm not sure that's true.
It's best not to think of Keeler as specifically racist, as much as it is unconscious bias built into the media industryThere is example after example of white coaches having feuds with the press. And I think it’s a bit troubling that if the media gets in a spat with a black coach the race card gets thrown out. Implying that Keeler is a racist because he is critical of Prime troubles me a bit. But that doesn’t mean Keeler isn’t a hack.
And fansIt's best not to think of Keeler as specifically racist, as much as it is unconscious bias built into the media industry
He's yet another wannabe jock sniffer that local media is filled with in every city. They can't give you an ounce of real in-depth football insight, so they write to shock and hope somebody reads it. I want to see someone throw him a football. I bet it would be hilarious to watch.There is example after example of white coaches having feuds with the press. And I think it’s a bit troubling that if the media gets in a spat with a black coach the race card gets thrown out. Implying that Keeler is a racist because he is critical of Prime troubles me a bit. But that doesn’t mean Keeler isn’t a hack.
Jake and RK said that Keeler showed up on Monday and pressed Seaton about liking/not liking Colorado at first and then turned his back to Camden Dempsey when he was addressing the Athlon stuff. Basically, people who think Keeler is just showing up, being professional, asking questions and then taking a negative slant to his columns don’t actually know how he behaves on a consistent basis. He’s a child.He's yet another wannabe jock sniffer that local media is filled with in every city. They can't give you an ounce of real in-depth football insight, so they write to shock and hope somebody reads it. I want to see someone throw him a football. I bet it would be hilarious to watch.
Prime draws the spotlight and even encourages a "with us or against us" situation with the media. But why would anyone in Denver media join the "against us" contingent? I'd understand it from someone who was in Omaha or SLC or whatever. But to be a hater on the Colorado HC and program as a Denver sports reporter who isn't a CSU beat writer? That's really weird.There is example after example of white coaches having feuds with the press. And I think it’s a bit troubling that if the media gets in a spat with a black coach the race card gets thrown out. Implying that Keeler is a racist because he is critical of Prime troubles me a bit. But that doesn’t mean Keeler isn’t a hack.
You're a coward. Have the ****ing balls to call a spade a spade. You can't.
I see a difference between punching down and counterpunching down.Agree with @Duff Man and particularly his point that college coaches do not like being challenged (probably because they simply aren't used to it). I think coaches should be above that kind of pettiness and just be better but it is what it is, I guess.
On that note, to use an example with Keeler and putting myself in Prime's shoes: if someone wrote about me that I was a false prophet and then showed up at my press event to ask me questions, I would feel justified in saying that I would not engage until he explained why he had a problem with me and we were able to come to an understanding of each other. Can someone explain to me why I would be in the wrong?It’s more than coaches not liking being challenged, IMO. It’s the sports media complex that has been controlling the narrative around these coaches and players for years, playing large roles in the fan sentiment and them getting fired.
Why should coaches “be above” challenging media members? What do people think they have the authority to tell them how to act toward media members who are hostile toward them?
It's one thing to do that to a 29 yo NFL pro. It's another to do it to an 18 yo Freshman.Jake and RK said that Keeler showed up on Monday and pressed Seaton about liking/not liking Colorado at first and then turned his back to Camden Dempsey when he was addressing the Athlon stuff. Basically, people who think Keeler is just showing up, being professional, asking questions and then taking a negative slant to his columns don’t actually know how he behaves on a consistent basis. He’s a child.
Plus the fake 'my man' comment was totally off putting, cringe worthy and maybe even a bit racist too.On that note, to use an example with Keeler and putting myself in Prime's shoes: if someone wrote about me that I was a false prophet and then showed up at my press event to ask me questions, I would feel justified in saying that I would not engage until he explained why he had a problem with me and we were able to come to an understanding of each other. Can someone explain to me why I would be in the wrong?
Prime is supposed to give full access to someone who has actively been going around his program trying to stir up controversy and trouble? Really?Jake and RK said that Keeler showed up on Monday and pressed Seaton about liking/not liking Colorado at first and then turned his back to Camden Dempsey when he was addressing the Athlon stuff. Basically, people who think Keeler is just showing up, being professional, asking questions and then taking a negative slant to his columns don’t actually know how he behaves on a consistent basis. He’s a child.
Did Keeler love on MacIntyre and rip Tucker and Dorrell? If so, then that’d indicate he’s a racist. To my knowledge that isn’t the case.Prime draws the spotlight and even encourages a "with us or against us" situation with the media. But why would anyone in Denver media join the "against us" contingent? I'd understand it from someone who was in Omaha or SLC or whatever. But to be a hater on the Colorado HC and program as a Denver sports reporter who isn't a CSU beat writer? That's really weird.
And when the media person wasn't like this in the past to CU and its coach while probably the biggest difference is the unedited and unapologetic "Blackness", it does make me think that the change in that media person's reporting is coming from somewhere on the scale between "Black culture is unfamiliar and unconsciously off putting to me" and "racist asshole".
I don't know, but it's not as simple as that. For example, someone could have some underlying (or overt) racism in their attitudes and reactions if they liked Tony Dungy as "one of the good ones" who comports himself in a way that is comfortable and he "happens to be Black" but then really dislikes Mike Tomlin who never speaks and acts in a way that allows you to forget that he's Black. And this isn't to say that Dungy isn't authentic or somehow turned in his Black card, but to say that if someone can't be true to who they are, their upbringing and their cultural experience without you reacting negatively to them while they aren't objectively doing anything wrong - the problem is with you and the baggage you're carrying which is somewhere on the spectrum from bias to bigotry.Did Keeler love on McIntyre and rip Tucker and Dorrell? If so, then that’d indicate he’s a racist. To my knowledge that isn’t the case.
Which simultaneously highlights what a gifted writer Keeler thinks he is, and actually isn't.I’m assuming Keeler is saying, “This press conference was worse than their record last year”. It’s a metaphor.
Seconding Nik here.Did Keeler love on MacIntyre and rip Tucker and Dorrell? If so, then that’d indicate he’s a racist. To my knowledge that isn’t the case.
third here. saying "i'm not racist, but i dont like [how he talks, the clothes he wears, his attitude, rap music, dancing, etc.]" is just showing disrespect for the culture and the history that has influenced thatSeconding Nik here.
Deion is unapologetically black, it's a huge difference in the way people's subconscious biases play out.
Not sure with this reporter or this instance, but in a broad generalization Deion gets more criticism as a result of how he looks, talks, and dresses. Much of that is heavily influenced by race.
Could it be just that he basically ran off 50 +/- players, the way he did it, that he’s brash, outspoken and isn’t very press friendly?Seconding Nik here.
Deion is unapologetically black, it's a huge difference in the way people's subconscious biases play out.
Not sure with this reporter or this instance, but in a broad generalization Deion gets more criticism as a result of how he looks, talks, and dresses. Much of that is heavily influenced by race.
As soon as I see a national hit piece on Bronco Mendenhall for having 60 new players his first year at UNM, I'll be more open to that.Could it be just that he basically ran off 50 +/- players, the way he did it, that he’s brash, outspoken and isn’t very press friendly?
I mean, I love the guy and think he’s a Godsend. He saved the program at a critical time in college football. But you can’t start calling reporters racist if they are critical.
You mean if the national media actually wrote anything about UNM? I did hear he told the players that he inherited that they better be ready because he was bringing in American Tourister.As soon as I see a national hit piece on Bronco Mendenhall for having 60 new players his first year at UNM, I'll be more open to that.
Are you open to admitting that Lanning was a dickbag when he said "we play for wins, not clicks" on the same game in which the Ducks were introducing rainbow, temperature activated shoes?He's going to be him, I don't want him to change, why would I? I'd be embarrassed if my coach acted like a ****ing baby though. Remember when Mike Bellotti(an all around great dude) said that the MWC couldn't hang with Pac-X talent before a bowl game with BYU that the Ducks proceeded to lose by 5 touchdowns? That was ****ing AWFUL, embarrassing, cringe AF. I can call a spade a spade, can you?