I've met Nwankwo’s little brother twice at basketball games. Dude is well shorter than me (6-3) and looks about the same weight (235). He's got a ways to go.
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I brought this up a bunch of times over the last two years. SS2's QB coach is all hype and pretty much worthless. Dude has a pretty bad reputation among coaches (and many players) in the same field nationwide.
I’ll all for bringing in grown men on both lines. Grad Transfer in this day and age…. Could be 29. 
I’m good starting a proven senior QB (with legs) for a year, while we get our franchise QB going. If he beats out Juju, he’s good, and that’s good for us.
I would concur on pure observations and that is why Shurmur feels like he will have a new life this season to really do what he does instead of highlight an existing trend.
The level of detail vs just being a Thrower of the ball was surprising. Interesting how he also coached Ward and he was reckless at times.
Going to be a lot of very detailed videos analyzing all the skills of the QB's, and Shedeur is "sloppy" with his ball fakes, and other clean aspects of the game.
EDIT: I do want to clarify that I think Shedeur has endless potential, he is a competitor, and he is extremely accurate, but even the most talented and competitive need details, and I want him to succeed like no other, but that means he has to be the master of his craft. We were all spoiled by Peyton Manning of course on just pure technical brilliance.
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Well, he’s working with the eventual QB1 and QB2 in this draft, is going to work with Keelon Russell and with Juju
Shedeur went from #36 or so QB in his class to #1 projected QB draft pick in 3 years despite having a QB coach that was awful?
If only CP had more money to spend on a higher market fit that his many contacts in the game could have vouched for instead of the low budget coach they went with!
If only CP had the insights and vision that some of us have! You kill me sometimes.
If only CP had more money to spend on a higher market fit that his many contacts in the game could have vouched for instead of the low budget coach they went with!
If only CP had the insights and vision that some of us have! You kill me sometimes.
Medford M.
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People seem to be underestimating Juju's running ability.
He's not a 4.5 guy like Salter, but people need to realize he's actually a better athlete than Shedeur.
brockbuff
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Va Tech Drones as well
Medford M.
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I think Shedeur bring Shedeur is why our offense looked the way it did.
That seems nuts to me. His job was to win games. A running game helps the QB immensely. This narrative is just denying reality imo. Shedeur could have put up bigger numbers by running a more balanced offense and had more wins if that was actually a choice. It wasn’t.
Shurmur doesn’t have a CFB system. He’s trying to run something that there’s not enough time to get it down with limitations in CFb practice time. Made worse by a revolving door in the OL room.
That’s my guess. Shurmur sucks.
Any OC with Shedeur as the QB sucks in our minds.
Shurmur talked a lot about learning how to play in 10 personnel when he got here, so why would he just make something up that is not even what he does.
Blame to go around for not being balanced, but it is what they all wanted to do, so it worked out in a general way, but I agree totally that there was more juice to squeeze in a balanced offense, just like I pointed out in 2016 numbers.
The HC job is to win games
The OC job is to score points and to do what the HC says
. I think Shurmur wanted to do it differently but it didn’t work.
Shedeur was probably quick to switch out of it, but within the parameters of the game plan. He wasn’t just doing it to pad his stats.
Shedeur and the team were better when we ran it somewhat effectively.
I maintain that the Shurmur scheme may not be ideal for this level. Just like Chip Kelly sucked in the NFL
It’s got to change. We will see if my hunch is correct and I hope it’s not.
People make all sorts of excuses about coaches and build narratives around why things will change. I’m with @buffaholic on this one. I’m skeptical on Shurmur.
See I felt like when Shurmur got his way they actually tried establishing the run game and it worked. There was more 11 personnel being used than 10 personnel, they were going out of the pistol more, etc. Shurmur was also on one of the broadcasts late in the season (I think Okie State) saying it’s Shedeur’s offense and that he’s had to learn a lot more about 4 wide as a base set than he’s ever known.
I think if you look at Shedeur’s career from JSU with Bartolone (and the other guy still on staff I’m drawing a blank on right now) as his OC, it was essentially the same thing in 2024 as it was at JSU.
I think that’s exactly why it didn’t work with Lewis in year one. Lewis wanted his offense and concepts which required a running QB and a lot of option/read routes from WRs. Very much a college offense that Shedeur didn’t like, so they brought in Shurmur to at least bring some NFL ideas, coaching a one concepts.
It happens to be how the business works. Get one, have some success and others seek you out. Players flock to 6Zero, but any decent players coming out of there have a pretty established base of previous coaching, talent, size or all three.
You think that was all this QB coach? Shedeur and these others have a god given skill set that's off the charts. I know quite a few people in the business. There's nothing game changing going on with players at this level. It's polishing good mechanics and cleaning up bad habits. Many times, these coaches build a book of business off the back of one success, stretch themselves to thin, and ultimately become "yes men" who feed every player the same set of drills and skills. This seems to be the situation here; from those I know who are in the know.
Take it FWIW.
The absolutely crazy this thing is, Lewis' offense would be perfect for a guy like Salter.
I feel like the transfer era will kill school allegiances that players have toward schools they played for. I get the feeling that players are more “guns for hire” and less about having a connection to the school. Does the NFL even have the starters announce their name and school affiliation anymore?
It may fit him, but I’m not convinced that’s an offense you can be successful with at the major college level. Very simplistic and DC’s learn your imitated tendencies after you have a few game films. Option is fine in bits, with RPO, and it was great fun back in the 80’s and 90’s, obviously.The absolutely crazy this thing is, Lewis' offense would be perfect for a guy like Salter.
Scared the hell out of me when he said he’d have the whole offense installed in like 6 days or something. Sure enough.
Bama fans have been largely ecstatic to get rid of Prichett. He gave up 2.5x more pressures this year than any other bama lineman
Medford M.
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If we're being honest about 6Zero, McChesney has actually been pretty successful because he's gotten a bunch of kids scholarships, who really had no business getting scholarships.
Yep, Tide don’t seem too upset about this “loss”.
I guess that depends on how you measure success. If it is getting 240-260lb linemen scholarships, yeah. But if you measure by how those players perform at the next level, he is a flop.
I mean, his business isn’t college coaching. It’s coaching and training high school kids to get scholarships. Performing well at the next level is on the player and school and I would bet his players don’t perform any worse at the next level than other guys coming from Colorado who don’t use his services.
I would say his job is to Develop players so they are prepared for the next level. The question would be, do his players from Colorado outperform players from Colorado not using his services. Then again, it's tough to measure, there are intangibles (think Charlie's heart and drive).
True, but go back and ask those coaches how things panned out.
Medford M.
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Hey, that's on them for buying what McChesney is sellingTrue, but go back and ask those coaches how things panned out.